Beerus vs Master Hand

[QuagsireTheLegend]

Universe 7´s God of Destruction


SSB Creator

Master Hand´s 3-A version

Speed Equalized

Master Hand: 8 (Paulo, Gargoyle, Cal (i think) LoyalservantofInti, Kaltias, Desiromaster, Beyond21,FateAlbane)

Beerus: 0

Hakai ennabled

Edit: If neccessary, MH is not allowed to create duplicates of Beerus

Bloodlusted

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Beerus

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Master_Hand

 

[Cropfist]

Hakai restriction is unecessary.

 

[Megamangohan]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/188195

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Beerus needs Hakai in order for this to be fair. Regardless, Beerus is fighting a never ending slew of 3-A Captain Falcons (yes, Master Hand can do that).

 

[QuagsireTheLegend]

@Megaman That was made over a year ago though,

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Also, that stomp is outdated, due to the AP buffs the DBS cast got.

 

[QuagsireTheLegend]

@Cal Ennabled Hakai

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Beerus seems to be a better fighter, and his Power Nullification may be an annoyance to the Hand, but I don't think he has any response to the Hand's Time and Reality Hax, and his pressure point based fighting style may not be that affective on a giant floating hand, so, Master Hand likely wins, specially it it's bloodlusted.

 

[Schnee_One]

Master hand freezes him in place with time manipulation then squishes him.

Bloodlusted MH is just absurd.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

To be fair, Master Hand can only slow and speed up time.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Maybe you could make Beerus bloodlusted but keep the Hand in character. Would this help?

 

[QuagsireTheLegend]

So then Bloodlusted Beerus and Non-Bloodlusted Master Hand?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Nah, because then it's just lolhakai.

 

[QuagsireTheLegend]

@Cal So this the fairest matchup for the both of them then? Awesome OwO

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

So, it isn't a haxstomp for neither? Good =)

 

[QuagsireTheLegend]

Indeed OwO

 

[QuagsireTheLegend]

@Cal Who do you give this to?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Non-bloodlusted for both would be best. Bloodlusted, this is how it goes:

Master Hand speeds up time for itself and its smash duplicates while slowing it for Beerus. Before Beerus could say Hakai, he is either forced into Delfina Plaza with no way out, warped out of existence, or just jumped by hundreds of Falcon Punches

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Well, if you stop to think about it, due to his experience, Beerus is likely a very adaptive fighter, and his Sealing, Power Nullification and Hakai could give the Hand a run for it's money if needed, so, yeah, it's more fair than it look, but I think the Hand could still win due to Time Manipulation and Reality Warping.

 

[QuagsireTheLegend]

I think i´ll rather keep it both Bloodlusted for now, depending on the feedback, if more peopl agree that Non-Bloodlust is best, i´ll change it


But for now i take it your vote goes to MH?

 

[Schnee_One]

To be fair, Master Hand can only slow and speed up time.

A slow at MFTL+ speeds is still a death wish when all you have is an erasure which has a startup time.

Wait, does Beerus have a better chance then Whis?!

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Why is speed equalized, what level of MFTL+ is Master Hand.

 

[QuagsireTheLegend]

@Lord Unknown, likely MFTL+

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

I think he just equalized to be sure.

 

[QuagsireTheLegend]

So...that´s 3 votes for Master Hand assuming Cal´s comment was voting in favor of MH?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Also @Cal Beerus dosent need to say Haikai, he just needs to raise a finger so even if master han decided to slow time first beerus would only need to point.

 

[Schnee_One]

10 million times FTL via scaling from Samus

Yeah equal speed is necessary

 

[SomebodyData]

He never fought samus in her MFTL+ suit @One

Plus crossover rules

 

[Schnee_One]

You're seriously brining in crossover rules from a crossover character?

How fast is Meta Knight?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

So basically Beerus loses out on his speed advantage but Master Hand keeps his Reality Warping and Time Manipulation... How is that fair.

 

[SomebodyData]

yes? @gargoyle. Him being a crossover charracter doesn't change that. As the versions he fights aren't even technically the canon versions of the characters anyways.

 

[QuagsireTheLegend]

@Griffin IIRC Master Hand´s Reality Warping isn´t all that massively overpowered

 

[Schnee_One]

Then why is he scaled from them?

How fast is Knight

 

[QuagsireTheLegend]

@SomebodyData So which character is your vote for?

 

[Kaltias]

Canon MK is quadrillions to quintillions iirc. No idea about Smash Meta Knight though

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@LG, I know. I meant it more as a figure of speech. Like how people say "______ will happen before you can say ______"

 

[Schnee_One]

Canon MK is quadrillions to quintillions iirc. No idea about Smash Meta Knight though

He's scaled from them so he probably is the same.

 

[SomebodyData]

@Gar probably outdated, I'll remove it.

@Quag, idk, I'm actually curious where the time manipulation came from for Master Hand, with it he probably does win, without it, I doubt it.

 

[Schnee_One]

He gets it by speeding up and slowing down the stage whenever you fight him, though that can be subject to gameplay mechanics

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

To be fair, he did fight the real hundreds of quadrillions c true Kirby before. Though I'm againts that being considered the same Mh. Also, MH may be getting an upgrade to infinite speed. Also, he's scaled from keeping up with the state Final Destination, which crosses galaxies, or at the very least solar systems.

@SD. It comes from how he can manipulate matches to make them faster or slower. It's done in Master Orders, so it can be reasonably assumed that it's his doing.

Master Hand's profile needs a small revision anyway. His range is Multi-Universal.