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Bayonetta= 3A Asura=4A

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Okay i'm back and i tried to put it the would be (i say this cause there's a chance we have to go and change them soon depending how this goes now) stats and upgrade.

So apparently it seems "redundent" to put vast amount of space. So what would be the best to put instead of Austrian's? Something that Wbaez said or...?
 
Wbaez93 said:
I'm sorry, Cross, but why did you put "potentially higher" in Asura's profile? There's no reason for it.
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Does it seem unnessecery? It's because his Mantra Reactor is supposed to allow him to reach higher levels of rage without destroying his body. Hmm....i could take out the potentially higher part but still leave the description for it. Will that work better?
 
He has to be like billions of times stronger to reach that hypothetical level, don't you think?

He can get angrier, but that would still make him "3-B" until stated otherwise.
 
Wbaez93 said:
He has to be like billions of times stronger to reach that hypothetical level, don't you think?
He can get angrier, but that would still make him "3-B" until stated otherwise.
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Good point. Well given what's been recently said while i was trying to update them, i'll try to go and....change stuff on them again....yeah.
 
covering that much space takes high energy right? and the space between 1 galaxy to another is very vast. the explosions seemigly covered all the galaxies that where around it.
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
From what Ant pointed out? Yeah, pretty much. @Victor2
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Oh yea you made a slight error, When I said that Chakravatin seemed minute compared to the explosion I used "minute" in the sense of how small he was. I think you thought I was talking about minute in the sense of the timeframe.
 
@A-M-M: Hmm? Well the way you said it sounded too vague. So yes, i did made a mistake but only because i was confused by what you said.
 
so the upgrades happen awesome now i think we should close this thread now
 
Wait, before we do that: We must ask the question.

Is everybody here satisfied enough with the current changes? Yes or No?
 
I am fine with the changes, but given that Chakravartin was larger than several galaxies combined, we should probably upgrade his, and Asura's, lifting strengths as well.
 
Hmm.....so at least 3-B Chakravartin and Asura, yes?

For lifting strength, Chakravartin did use telekinesis (he did right?) to lift and more multiple planets and suns at one time. Hmm.....
 
Well, just regular "3-C or 3-B", with no "At least" before "3-B", as I mentioned earlier.

Anyway, if Chakravartin is larger than several galaxies combined, then he should logically have Multi-Galactic lifting strength.
 
Okay. Well Chakra and Asura are set at "3-C, possibly 3-B" as of now.

Oooooo okay. Hmm. I'll try to set that up now.
 
No problem.

The problem with Asura was i have no clue as to where he would be at beyond Class Y cause compared to Chakravartin's size, Asura was like Wyzen in that they were bigger than the Earth and.....well that's it?
 
Okay. Maybe "Galactic or Multi-Galactic" strength for Chakravartin, and "Unknown" for Asura then?
 
Antvasima said:
Okay. Maybe "Galactic or Multi-Galactic" strength for Chakravartin, and "Unknown" for Asura then?
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No i think Galactic or Multi Galactic strength for Chakravartin, and Class Y for Asura is alright as it is.
 
Well Perpetual said to wait a bit so i decided to leave this open to see what he has to say.....hopefully he does say something here soon by tomorrow though....
 
I want to say something.

It seems that people are using a NLF with Asura; his anger.

They say that he would just keep getting angrier and stronger, thus surpassing his enemies.

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No - limits fallacy (NLF)
This is when someone states that because something has not demonstrated any limits (or only certain limits) then it has none (or only the ones demonstrated).

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Pretty much what some people are trying to do; something must be done.

That's all I wanted to add.
 
Well, we only placed him in the same tier as Chakravartin.
 
Yes, and people must know that he isn't getting stronger than that, but they're trying to use his "anger" to imply that he could.
 
So I am wondering, Chakravartin specifically says that he has travelled to other worlds, in this cases, universes. However, we also see in the guidebook Victor posted that the orbs surrounding him are legit galaxies, meaning that Chakravartin would have consumed multiple galaxies.

Personally, Galaxy level Chakravartin is rather lowballing it. I am leaning towards "At least 3-B, likely higher" here instead of "3-C, possibly 3-B". Creator Chakravartin should be even higher, especially seeing that his death explosion seemed to have created something similar to a big-bang.
 
A regular big bang explosion only contains 3-B level energy. All that we seem to have concrete evidence for are the current ratings.
 
So wait if we actually used "At least 3-B, likely higher" instead, it's just going to be Multi-Galaxy level and no plus, correct? Just asking...
 
We have no proof of higher rating than relatively low 3-B.
 
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