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Bayonetta= 3A Asura=4A

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At least 3-B is what I originally suggested and is what I'm sticking with until I have proof of something higher than that

It should probably be noted that Creator Chakravartin should be at least as fast, if not far more so, than his idol form, and sheer size alone probably nets some pretty high results in that regard.
 
Jeez man, you literally had me waiting for ya like forever....

Okay so instead of "3-C, possibly 3-B", you and Crazy are in support of At least 3-B (though Crazy leans more with the "likely higher" part though).

Alright...
 
Well, maybe so, but a bit more concrete evidence would be nice. I'm still looking, I have other things I've got to do as well.
 
Fair enough. I'll try to keep this open in case we need to change Asura and Chakravartins tier......again.
 
It's "3-C, possibly 3-B" because those "galaxies" around him are really small, and the databook image isn't helpful either (they look more like stars there, tho).
 
I still agree with the 3-B rateing but the whole he gets stronger the more anger he has ia because that was the point of the whole game his anger is his power what i am trying to say is that multiple times in the game whaen he gets angry enough he surpasses his opponent or at least gets stronger i.e. wyzen , that entire hord of goma, when that girl that looked like his daughter, Chakravartin shield then when he had the brahmastras mantra reactor he had a body that could handle his power with out killing himself.

Also when ever he gets a new level of power that level becomes his new base or at least around there i.e. wyzen after that he just had that level in base at leat around there. I.e. wyzen,agus, even deus and the biggest point of this argument when creator chakravrtin knocked asura back into base he still had enough power to go toe to toe and eventually beat creator form in base

( when he beat creator form chakravrtin he only used wrath mantra that may count for something or not but had to add it )
 
We use the highest showings of a character to tier such a character who's power level increases based on outside factors to avoid fallacies.
 
at least the upgrades are happening so yeah maybe because all those galaxies that came up after chakravartin died which looks like the big bang so at least 3-B seems justifiyable
 
We have already decided to use what can actually be proven, which is "At least 3-C. Possibly 3-B". This has been stated over and over, and we are not going to change it.

This thread is going around in circles, so I think that it is appropriate to close it at this point.
 
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