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Battle of the immortal dark mages: Zeref vs Galbatorix

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Mind hax Zeref= ankserham curse taking over and Zeref's death magic killiling all living creatures around him.
 
Since the only thing that stops death magic to run wild is Zeref consciously ignoring the importance of life, and the fact galb of course doesn't not know about that... I am pretty sure galb is screwed.
 
That would still just make it inconclusive if Gal just destroys Zeref's mind and then dies of death magic
 
Yeah...that seems like a good reason to switch to Inconclusive.
 
Please explain your vote and not simply spam this with the reasons of others.
 
No need for that as everyone agreed on the same thing.

Galba will mind hax Zeref so he can't fight, but then Zeref's curse will kill Galba.
 
Ankersham's curse. His death magic goes wild and kills anything around him. People,animals,nature etc.
 
WilliamShadow said:
Ankersham's curse. His death magic goes wild and kills anything around him. People,animals,nature etc.

Does he have to be conscious to use that or is it an automatic protection ?
 
Only if he consciously ignores the importance of life, than he can control it.

In any other case his magic just kills people without him wanting it, which is why it's a curse.
 
Can he still use it if Galbatorix has complete control over his body, can basically control and read every thought and "shut him down" if he wants so ?
 
He doesn't use the ankserham's curse.

The curse uses his body and releases death magic, it's a curse by a God of death and life placed on Zeref he has no control over it.

The curse will kill any living creature for as long as Zeref doesn't want to do so himself.
 
"Doesn't want to do it himself"

In this case, since Zeref is willing to kill, it won't work
 
Once his mind is broken by Galba he is no longer willing to kill persons or do anything.
 
What stops Galbatorix from using his power and Zerefs in that state to completly destroy Zerefs body ?
 
The fact death magic will kill him before he does it. He has no idea what will happen once he mind haxes Zeref. Also destroying completly someone's body ain't that easy.
 
WilliamShadow said:
Once his mind is broken by Galba he is no longer willing to kill persons or do anything.
Well yeah he's dead, I'm pretty sure it doesn't work like that
 
^Not sure what you want to say. Zeref's curse is not activated by that one condition of him ignoring the importance of life, in any other case it kills people around him and his mind being broken really changes nothing.
 
Actually, isn't the curse activated by him understanding the importance of life, and it becomes controlled when he doesn't understand the importance of life?

In which case, having his mind destroyed would make him very much "not understand the concept of life", and the curse would still be under his control, he just wouldn't do anything with it because he's a vegetable.
 
Curse can be controlled only if he refuses the importance of life not when he doesn't understand its concept. He kind got cursed for understating it too much lol.

To put it simple. If Zeref is standing in front of you and he couldn't care less about your life or any other around him, than he will control his powers.

If Zeref stands in front of you even by just laying on the ground crying or randomly waking up without maybe even realising you are there, his curse kills you.

Funnily both of those things happened.
 
So it's controlled when he doesn't care about life

And its uncontrolled when he does care about life

In which case, being a vegetable is still not caring about life.
 
When he refuses the importance of life of others he controls the power.

A vegetable can't refuse anything or think about anything or anything of the kind. As a vegetable Zeref wouldn't even know where or what he is, but since there are livings around him his curse kills them.

Also, considering how his curse awakens and causes "mental" pain he would likely get back to normal, but since there are no feats in FT relevant to that it would be just an assumption.
 
Dang. Gotta get me some popcorn for this one. I sorta skimmed through the page to read the arguments, but I would like to mention that Zeref gets his immortality from a god. In the form of a curse. If Galbo could mind-rape him long enough to find that out, perhaps he could find a way to break his curse. Maybe through a magic link or something, I dunno. But still. Thoughts?
 
Doubt Galba could find a way to do it and even if he does since the only way is another person that has Ankserham's curse and has the inner contradiction of both caring for Zeref and hating Zeref at the same time. It would be impossible, plus why would he even bother or would even be able to find out considering there is over 400 years of memories in that mind.

Also, dragons same as his?
 
She used her orb (magical artefacts like her orb and Natsu's scarf can absorb effect of death wave)in combination with time reversal so she was able to keep death wave from hitting her by continuously repairing her orb. In fact at the end of the attack even the orb got destroyed.

Also, there is to note that Zeref is in highly weakened form as well.
 
Like Igneel's scales and Ultear's orb when empowered by her time reversal while Zeref is highly weakened.

And don't bother as he has no idea about it even if he had something to seal away his death magic he wouldn't know what it does or that he must use something to seal it away instead of trying to block it and similar.
 
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