battle for 7B 5th place for no smurf version 2.0

[Oliver_de_jesus]

shion second key 7B vs Dante Dmc1 7B but you can use DT sparda 3A, SBA, speed equal and in character.

Devil hunter:

War Spirit Oni:

Incon:

 

[GLHF22]

Isnt sparda devil trigger is low 2C? Bruh, thats Smurfs.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

no, it is possible 3A low 2C but it is not a smurf, it can range from 3A to low 2-C so dante has battles with beings 3A as low 2C.

 

[GLHF22]

Low 2-C Hax for 7-B character is Smurfs.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

That depends if Oliver is using 3-A Sparda DT or Low 2-C Sparda DT

 

[GLHF22]

No, he still have the Smurfs ability in the same key, its like saying that wether Reinhard open His Swastika or not.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

dmc1 key has no smurf if we use end 3A.

 

[ShivaShakti]

Bruh

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Do you not understand what the "possibly" means, GLHF?

 

[GLHF22]

Do you understand why they give possibly?

 

[Ionliosite]

GLHF, he isn't a smurf, because if you use him as a 3-A, then he isn't Low 2-C, and thus doesn't have 4-D stuff.

 

[GLHF22]

Do you understand why The GoTM get the 2 place even though her Tier is just possibly 1-A+?

Do you understand why they give possibly in the first place?

Do you understand why someone can get spot despite their Tier is just possibly?

 

[Ionliosite]

For God's sake, read the other people's arguments first before making a rant that has nothing to do with the discussion.

 

[GLHF22]

GLHF, he isn't a smurf, because if you use him as a 3-A, then he isn't Low 2-C, and thus doesn't have 4-D stuff.

His low 2C form is in the same key, are you trying to get reinhard in the spot by restricted LLT and all His Outerversal stuff?

 

[Ionliosite]

His low 2C form is in the same key, are you trying to get reinhard in the spot by restricted LLT and all His Outerversal stuff?

That's totally different, because Rein's LLT isn't "3-D Tier, possibly High 1-A", but High 1-A all the time.

 

[GLHF22]

Bruh,my point is you cant restrict some ability just to get him in the spot.

 

[Ionliosite]

''He isn't restricting anything''.

 

[GLHF22]

His sparda is low-2C, if you think low 2C isnt legit, then remove all character who have possibly Tier from the spot.

 

[DarkGrath]

Do you even understand what a smurf is?

Think about it. If we can do matches with characters with multiple ratings (like this one, where he is 3-A and possibly Low 2-C on the same key) and we use the 3-A rating, do we suddenly say "it's a stomp because he's Low 2-C".

No. Because under the rating used for the match, we assume that the Low 2-C rating isn't the valid one. Since this is using 3-A Sparda DT, it isn't Low 2-C, and therefore isn't a smurf.

 

[GLHF22]

Im not saying he is stomping, his sparda is have low 2C Tier, then if "possibly" isnt valid then why the hell he got the Tier in the first place? Why not remove all character with "possibly" tier from the spot? It isnt valid no?

 

[DarkGrath]

I legitimately don't understand what you're talking about at this point.

Like, what's the actual issue with what's being stated? We're using the 3-A rating for this match, therefore, it's not higher dimensional.

 

[GLHF22]

Okay, i will ignore the higher dimensional stuff for match sakes,

Then what can he do to Shio?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

well dante would know that shion is not someone to take lightly and it is worse than facing mundus in a certain way thanks to alastor and he will decide to go with his best hax and try from bombing shion with ap + teleport + stop time if that fails will use DT sparda since he is in character for that here

 

[GLHF22]

If Dante didnt Resist fate manip then he doesnt have answer to cook, cook literaly rewrite the outcome result, "Dante teleport, bombarding shion" is rewritten into "Dante get hit by Shion's Blade"

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

is it based on thought? It is also linked to her range because she says that she has several meters and there is a distance of 4Km, of course, that is nothing, but when she is done, well time stopped and Dante destroys her soul, avoiding her regen.

 

[GLHF22]

Wdym? His range in base is tens of meters.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

ok but would you still be able to see dante at such a distance (4km) and know what to use against him before he eliminates it and also his fate hax is based on thoughts?

 

[GLHF22]

No, no, if both range in base is tens of meters, then the starting distance is just tens of meter according to SBA.

 

[GLHF22]

Yeah '''her''' fate Hax is thought based.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

no dante has several kilometers and interdimensional range via travel and sensig and the sba indicates that if an enemy has more range such as several kilometers vs tens of meters than the other then 4km is used

 

[GLHF22]

Varies from extended melee range to tens of meters with projectiles and energy attacks (His Devil Trigger Explosion destroyed the top of a skyscraper), Interdimensional with Alastor (Alastor was able to sense Nero Angelo's presence despite him being in the mirror dimension) and Dimensional Travel, Universal with Yamato (Can create portals in the Demon World while in the Human World).

His other range is via ability, but His normal range is either extended to tens of meters.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Hax accounts for the range in sba iirc

we can continue tomorrow I'm tired and tomorrow I have online classes early also I doubt that someone will answer for a while