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Battle for #1 strongest 9-C: (Mage vs Little Treasure)
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Lmao 1-A passives vs 1-A passives. Im gonna lean towards inconclusive as mages don't resist 1-A sealing and Little Treasure doesn't resist 1-A narrative erasure.
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Isn't Mage's 1-A+?
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Regardless, one would be alive, and the other wouldn't be.
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I'm not sure about that speed rating though? Even moving in a true void shouldn't really warrant immesurable I'm pretty sure.
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Can't the same be said for his narrative erasure? Both work simultaneously. Now it's a matter of whether being sealed while your opponent is dead counting as a win.
It most definitely isn't. It wouldn't even warrant Infinite.
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So, about the speed. Is moving in a void all they have for such a level?
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Because they get type 1 acaus at tier 3, which means the immesurable stuff would be able to time travel and **** them up early if they don't.
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Mage has the 9-C tier, but his AP section just lists him as Wall Level instead, so . . .
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Doesnt the Chinamans passives work on Irrelevant speed guys anyway? Whihc would obviously pht it above Immeasurable.
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So... would that mean their passive would effect the mage first or...
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Isn't there a priority system for if both characters have equal passives in their ap?
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I honestly dont know.
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Well, if the Mages powers are 1-A+, they'd have to move in 1-A spaces... so I don't think it hitting 1-A characters really matters.
The speed rating being Immeasurable is because that Void is outside of the entire Cosmology, and IIRC, at the time, moving in such spaces without being 1-A was just Immeasurable speed, I don't think it can go higher, at least, I've never seen it go higher, otherwise a lot of Warhammer characters are gonna get very fast.
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I should make it clear, this Space is very much so outside of all Conception in WoD, including the Conception of Time.
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Insulting or belittling? Moving in X hasn't been a viable speed feat or ages now. At best, you can try to argue for Irrelevant with the "beyond conception" and I wish you good luck in getting that accepted. Otherwise, it doesn't count for anything.
And for f*ck's sake, not everything that downgrades WoD is a personal attack
And for f*ck's sake, not everything that downgrades WoD is a personal attack
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I'm not sure what you mean, I specifically remember Dragon Ball Heroes having a thread on it not that long ago which prompted the change to Timeless Realms.
Using the current definition of Immeasurable:
I mean, just to be able to get there is in itself ludicrous, so I'm still confused on why you'd think something beyond conceptions of a Verse would be below Immeasurable speed?
And you still haven't provided any citations on why it's not "Immeasurable anymore"
Using the current definition of Immeasurable:
This works completely fine with what they have Immeasurable speed for. The Void outside of creation breaks both sides of the Speed formula, being outside of conceptions of Time and Space.
I mean, just to be able to get there is in itself ludicrous, so I'm still confused on why you'd think something beyond conceptions of a Verse would be below Immeasurable speed?
And you still haven't provided any citations on why it's not "Immeasurable anymore"
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Having 1-A hax is not reason for immeasurable, and moving in voids isn't either. If they lack outright feats on such levels they would not be rated that.
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Note 6 on the same page. Movement beyond linear time means moving through time as one would through space with speed alone. There's an entire thread downgrading characters that no longer meet this requirement. Voids no longer grant any sort of speed, again specified in the notes on the page.
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The reasoning is that being able to function outside of something does not equate being always unbound by it without proper proof, and in this case it's specifically tier 3s that become unbound by time.
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I've read Note 6 before typing. Note 6 talks about what does qualify for Immeasurable speed, not what doesn't.
"Voids" in the sense you're putting it is Timeless Voids, Voids that lack Time, which isn't what I'm talking about.
I think I have some statements about them going to Jupiter (It's just as weird in context, don't worry) that would put them at Immeasurable speed as well.
"Voids" in the sense you're putting it is Timeless Voids, Voids that lack Time, which isn't what I'm talking about.
I think I have some statements about them going to Jupiter (It's just as weird in context, don't worry) that would put them at Immeasurable speed as well.
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Any void wouldn't count though. Only moving through time with speed counts as of now while being unbound by time can also count if you can prove that it allows them to do the former.
If it's just this then it's back to whatever speed they used to have.
If it's just this then it's back to whatever speed they used to have.
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The jupiter feat should do if it works.
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Jupiter is the Sphere of Time and has a bunch of warped Time stuff happening with it, it's really weird, I'll see if this book has what I'm looking for.
