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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Based on the info card, Ichibe also named all events, and he can influence anything he named.
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On a different note, I loved how they portrayed the Almighty, but man, did Ichibe's Masoleum really steal the show! They had him sing and dance and everything! Uryu vs Senjumaru was also pretty sick. Seeing Uryu use the Antithesis (without actually revealing it yet) to trap Senjumaru in her own Bankai, and then one-shot her was so cool after Senjumaru nearly killed him earlier by trapping him.

On a completely different note, I'm not used to watching Bleach in Japanese, so I was completely surprised that Uryu is voiced by the voice of Shirou Emiya. It was a bit surprising (and disorienting) as a huge Fate fan. That's not relevant, I just thought it was funny.
 
Wankbreaker said:
Could you send the raw text here? Interesting
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Here you go.

霊王を守る王族特務・零番隊の実質的な頭目。「真名呼和尚」の二つ名を持つ。万物の「真名」を司る存在であり、尸魂界の開闢以来、あらゆる物象や事象に「名」を与え、名を与えたものに干渉し影響を及ぼす事ができる。兵主部の斬魄刀『一文字」は、巨大な筆の形状をした刀で、この世に存在する「黒」の全てを支配する力を持ち、一文字に黒く塗り潰されたものは名を失い、能力や性質を無効化される。解号は「黒めよ」。そして、一般的な斬魄刀でいう”卍解”は、「真打・しら筆一文字」。「最初に生まれた”進化した斬魄刀”」である。対象となるものに白の墨で「新たな名」を刻み、そのと同じ性質へと変換してしまう。


霊王宮防衛戦では、ユーハバッハに「黒」の名を書き込み、虫けら同然の存在へと変質させた
 
P1) If something has a name, Ichibe named it
P2) Our universe has a name
C1) Ichibe gave our universe name
P3) For all x, if Ichibei named it, than ichibei has complete influence over it.
C2) Ichibe has complete influence over the universe
P4) If something has complete control over the universe, they are universal
C3) Ichibe is universal
 
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
Here you go.

霊王を守る王族特務・零番隊の実質的な頭目。「真名呼和尚」の二つ名を持つ。万物の「真名」を司る存在であり、尸魂界の開闢以来、あらゆる物象や事象に「名」を与え、名を与えたものに干渉し影響を及ぼす事ができる。兵主部の斬魄刀『一文字」は、巨大な筆の形状をした刀で、この世に存在する「黒」の全てを支配する力を持ち、一文字に黒く塗り潰されたものは名を失い、能力や性質を無効化される。解号は「黒めよ」。そして、一般的な斬魄刀でいう”卍解”は、「真打・しら筆一文字」。「最初に生まれた”進化した斬魄刀”」である。対象となるものに白の墨で「新たな名」を刻み、そのと同じ性質へと変換してしまう。


霊王宮防衛戦では、ユーハバッハに「黒」の名を書き込み、虫けら同然の存在へと変質させた
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He is the de facto leader of the Royal Special Force Zero Division, tasked with protecting the Soul King. He holds the title of "True Name-Calling Monk." As a being overseeing the "true names" of all things, he has given names to every object and phenomena since the creation of the Soul Society, allowing him to influence and interfere with that which is named. His Zanpakuto, "Ichimonji," is a sword in the shape of a large brush that possesses the power to control all "black" in existence. Anything painted black with Ichimonji loses its name, rendering its abilities and properties nullified. Its release command is "Stain Black." The equivalent of a typical Zanpakuto's "Bankai" is "True Form: Shirafude Ichimonji," considered the "first evolved Zanpakuto." It engraves a "new name" in white ink onto the target, transforming it to take on that same property.

In the defense of the Soul King's Palace, he wrote the name of "black” onto Yhwach, transforming him into a mere insect-like being. (The text says black instead of black ant, im not sure why lol)
 
Btw from the new info, it seems Ichibei can "name" events itself. If that's the case then you could perhaps argue conceptual fate hax or smth like that which makes sense given he could steal hundred nights into the "future" soo he has some form of time manipulation which is why Yhwach upgraded his power to third pupil which seems to indicate that either Ichibei have blocked his ability to see and alter future as he already knows Yhwach can manipulate futures given the context that this time around we seen him teleporting and seeing futures or made an event where Yhwach was destined to be erased by his shrine technique

There is also this fact that Ichibei was "surprised" when Yhwach mimicked his sentence word by word which hints that Ichibei did "NOT" expected that to happen and he knows his power already. The third eye was there to forcefully null Ichibei stuff which seems to be a case layering.

So in the end, I think the conceptual powernull scaling chain goes like this soo far:

The third pupil Almighty > Two pupil Almighty (after awakening and fully controlled) > Ichibei's Shrine technique > Two pupil Almighty (before awakening) > Ichibei's casual conceptual hax
 
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Arcker123 said:
P1) If something has a name, Ichibe named it
P2) Our universe has a name
C1) Ichibe gave our universe name
P3) For all x, if Ichibei named it, than ichibei has complete influence over it.
C2) Ichibe has complete influence over the universe
P4) If something has complete control over the universe, they are universal
C3) Ichibe is universal
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What's the universe's true name?
 
Obviously, the dub isn't out yet, but subbed is still good either way.

New OP is sick as hell, and the background music is beautiful.

Senjumaru's Bankai? Terrifying.

Ichibe vs Kuroari was a BEATDOWN. Ichibe was creepy as hell.

Yhwach is basically unbeatable, he's going into futures where he's in a different place to avoid attacks.

Post-Almighty, Uryu actually held his own against Bankai Senjumaru, making him 4-A.

Ichibe is so creepy, his cryptic singing is pretty beautiful though. He then uses his Biden powers on Yhwach and makes it so he isn't black anymore, and it doesn't work because he's Yhwach, and he kills Ichibe without even touching him.

Uryu uses his Schrift to mess around with Senjumaru and kills her.

Ichibe has a much less friendly vibe than he did before.

SOSUKE AIZEN

Ywach pierces the Soul King and then speaks, but it's not a name, rather him saying 'my father.'
 
Arcker123 said:
P1) If something has a name, Ichibe named it
P2) Our universe has a name
C1) Ichibe gave our universe name
P3) For all x, if Ichibei named it, than ichibei has complete influence over it.
C2) Ichibe has complete influence over the universe
P4) If something has complete control over the universe, they are universal
C3) Ichibe is universal
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Unironically, this might actually be something we can argue for.
 
Wankbreaker said:
He is the de facto leader of the Royal Special Force Zero Division, tasked with protecting the Soul King. He holds the title of "True Name-Calling Monk." As a being overseeing the "true names" of all things, he has given names to every object and phenomena since the creation of the Soul Society, allowing him to influence and interfere with that which is named. His Zanpakuto, "Ichimonji," is a sword in the shape of a large brush that possesses the power to control all "black" in existence. Anything painted black with Ichimonji loses its name, rendering its abilities and properties nullified. Its release command is "Stain Black." The equivalent of a typical Zanpakuto's "Bankai" is "True Form: Shirafude Ichimonji," considered the "first evolved Zanpakuto." It engraves a "new name" in white ink onto the target, transforming it to take on that same property.

In the defense of the Soul King's Palace, he wrote the name of "black” onto Yhwach, transforming him into a mere insect-like being. (The text says black instead of black ant, im not sure why lol)
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Can you translate Senjumaru's profile too?
 
MetalGearRaiden said:
yeah, Sasuke, Uryu, Emiya ,in that Order,
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My man, Noriaki Sugiyama! That's just a really funny coincidence.

Actually, on the English side; there's a lot of crossover between them, too. Stephanie Sheh voiced Hinata, Orihime, and Illya; Michelle Ruff voiced Arcueid (ahhh, the Tsukihime anime, what a tragedy), Rukia, and Saber (only in the 2010 Deen Unlimited Blade Works movie); Steve Staley voiced Shiki Tohno and Hitsugaya; Wendee Lee voiced Akiha Tohno and Yoruichi; hell Johnny Yong Bosch voices Ichigo and voiced Ryunnosuke in Fate/Zero; etcetera.
MetalGearRaiden said:
(IIRC the Voice acting for the visual novel only came in 2007 with the Realta Nua release, so after Naruto and Bleach anime, and FSN 2006 Anime, for that matter)
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You are correct.
 
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
Here you go.

霊王を守る王族特務・零番隊の実質的な頭目。「真名呼和尚」の二つ名を持つ。万物の「真名」を司る存在であり、尸魂界の開闢以来、あらゆる物象や事象に「名」を与え、名を与えたものに干渉し影響を及ぼす事ができる。兵主部の斬魄刀『一文字」は、巨大な筆の形状をした刀で、この世に存在する「黒」の全てを支配する力を持ち、一文字に黒く塗り潰されたものは名を失い、能力や性質を無効化される。解号は「黒めよ」。そして、一般的な斬魄刀でいう”卍解”は、「真打・しら筆一文字」。「最初に生まれた”進化した斬魄刀”」である。対象となるものに白の墨で「新たな名」を刻み、そのと同じ性質へと変換してしまう。


霊王宮防衛戦では、ユーハバッハに「黒」の名を書き込み、虫けら同然の存在へと変質させた
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Do you have the one for Senjumaru?
 
ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn said:
Do you have the one for Senjumaru?
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This I think, if you have iPhone you can just screenshot an image and if there are words on it you can copy them and just paste.

製王及び金王を守護する王族特務・零番隊「大統守」修多羅千手丸の新刀。


始解時は針の状態に変化し、針頭から無限に伸びる豆子の糸で誰い目を入れた対象


を操る。卍解は「製関連羅刺絡辻」。巨大な機織り機が出現し反物が流れ出ると


同時に、その両側に無数の糸が垂れ下がる小さな門が林立、小門からも反物が下がり、楕円状の空間が出来上がる。対時する敵に合わせ様々な特性の反物が織られ、その繊柄が具現化したかのような攻撃で敷をる。散の数や特性に合わせて、反物の


数や柄も増減する。霊王宮防衛戦に於いて、六人の滅却師を相手にした修多は


「死出六色浮文機」をった。なお、辛番隊の四神将である麒麟寺天示郎、曳舟桐


生、二枚屋王悦、修多羅千手丸は、それぞれの卍解が三界に与える影響の大きさを鑑み、互いの命をもって卍解発動を制限する「血盟の契」を交わしている。
 
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
This I think, if you have iPhone you can just screenshot an image and if there are words on it you can copy them and just paste.

製王及び金王を守護する王族特務・零番隊「大統守」修多羅千手丸の新刀。


始解時は針の状態に変化し、針頭から無限に伸びる豆子の糸で誰い目を入れた対象


を操る。卍解は「製関連羅刺絡辻」。巨大な機織り機が出現し反物が流れ出ると


同時に、その両側に無数の糸が垂れ下がる小さな門が林立、小門からも反物が下がり、楕円状の空間が出来上がる。対時する敵に合わせ様々な特性の反物が織られ、その繊柄が具現化したかのような攻撃で敷をる。散の数や特性に合わせて、反物の


数や柄も増減する。霊王宮防衛戦に於いて、六人の滅却師を相手にした修多は


「死出六色浮文機」をった。なお、辛番隊の四神将である麒麟寺天示郎、曳舟桐


生、二枚屋王悦、修多羅千手丸は、それぞれの卍解が三界に与える影響の大きさを鑑み、互いの命をもって卍解発動を制限する「血盟の契」を交わしている。
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I found this. It might be the same?

刺絡 (しがらみ)
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霊王及び霊王宮を守護する王族特務・零番隊「大織守」修多羅千手丸の斬魄刀。 始解時は針の状態に変化し、針頭から無限に伸びる霊子の糸で縫い目を入れた対象 を操る。卍解は『娑闥迦羅骸刺絡辻』。巨大な機織り機が出現し反物が流れ出ると 同時に、その両側に無数の糸が垂れ下がる小さな門が林立、小門からも反物が下が り、楕円状の空間が出来上がる。対峙する敵に合わせ様々な特性の反物が織られ、そ の織柄が具現化したかのような攻撃で敵を葬る。敵の数や特性に合わせて、反物の 数や柄も増減する。霊王宮防衛戦に於いて、六人の滅却師を相手にした修多羅は 『死出六色浮文機』を謳った。なお、零番隊の四神将である麒麟寺天示郎、曳舟桐 生、二枚屋王悦、修多羅千手丸は、それぞれの卍解が三界に与える影響の大きさを 鑑み、互いの命をもって卍解発動を制限する『血盟の契』を交わしている。
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Wankbreaker said:
Send tgat
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Here you go.
 
Arcker123 said:
P1) If something has a name, Ichibe named it
P2) Our universe has a name
C1) Ichibe gave our universe name
P3) For all x, if Ichibei named it, than ichibei has complete influence over it.
C2) Ichibe has complete influence over the universe
P4) If something has complete control over the universe, they are universal
C3) Ichibe is universal
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CM1 Bleach baby
 
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