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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Is it just me or is this twilight in Las Noches? Las Noches Star level is real.
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Yeah, not happening. Tho I'm still disappointed, wasn't expecting a full remake at all but at leas something but this short video just seems to be it unless it's a teaser for something
Oh, I highly doubt it's happening, I was just using a meme format to turn my coping into a joke.

We'll have to see what's coming since it is a trailer for the Bleach anime's 20th anniversary, but we don't know what they're planning.
 
btw the anime is exactly the same as the manga with Yhwach regaining his power, 9 year cooldown
 
uryu will fight Ichigo so it was obvious he get that strong tbh

Also did Almighty nullified shutara bankai as well?
 
Based on the info card, Ichibe also named all events, and he can influence anything he named.
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Based on the info card, Ichibe also named all events, and he can influence anything he named.
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/856923869448110090/1292161699063009361/Screenshot_20241005_192736_Google.jpg?ex=6702badc&is=6701695c&hm=480abfe5bfd4e5b9bb2665575ebdfd3f6a13cec9ccb2def69ea6369040f6808e&https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/856923869448110090/1292161699402612756/Screenshot_20241005_192631_Google.jpg?ex=6702badc&is=6701695c&hm=b57cb5e491ec37b9ba2d7d067d5df6da286f98c4ca8e1f9e7913317803f7ae56&
That's pretty cool. Man, we're getting so many buffs!
 
Based on the info card, Ichibe also named all events, and he can influence anything he named.
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/856923869448110090/1292161699063009361/Screenshot_20241005_192736_Google.jpg?ex=6702badc&is=6701695c&hm=480abfe5bfd4e5b9bb2665575ebdfd3f6a13cec9ccb2def69ea6369040f6808e&https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/856923869448110090/1292161699402612756/Screenshot_20241005_192631_Google.jpg?ex=6702badc&is=6701695c&hm=b57cb5e491ec37b9ba2d7d067d5df6da286f98c4ca8e1f9e7913317803f7ae56&
It's only the first episode in the season and we already got crazy buffs
 
On a different note, I loved how they portrayed the Almighty, but man, did Ichibe's Masoleum really steal the show! They had him sing and dance and everything! Uryu vs Senjumaru was also pretty sick. Seeing Uryu use the Antithesis (without actually revealing it yet) to trap Senjumaru in her own Bankai, and then one-shot her was so cool after Senjumaru nearly killed him earlier by trapping him.

On a completely different note, I'm not used to watching Bleach in Japanese, so I was completely surprised that Uryu is voiced by the voice of Shirou Emiya. It was a bit surprising (and disorienting) as a huge Fate fan. That's not relevant, I just thought it was funny.
 
Based on the info card, Ichibe also named all events, and he can influence anything he named.
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/856923869448110090/1292161699063009361/Screenshot_20241005_192736_Google.jpg?ex=6702badc&is=6701695c&hm=480abfe5bfd4e5b9bb2665575ebdfd3f6a13cec9ccb2def69ea6369040f6808e&https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/856923869448110090/1292161699402612756/Screenshot_20241005_192631_Google.jpg?ex=6702badc&is=6701695c&hm=b57cb5e491ec37b9ba2d7d067d5df6da286f98c4ca8e1f9e7913317803f7ae56&
Could you send the raw text here? Interesting
 
Could you send the raw text here? Interesting
Here you go.

霊王を守る王族特務・零番隊の実質的な頭目。「真名呼和尚」の二つ名を持つ。万物の「真名」を司る存在であり、尸魂界の開闢以来、あらゆる物象や事象に「名」を与え、名を与えたものに干渉し影響を及ぼす事ができる。兵主部の斬魄刀『一文字」は、巨大な筆の形状をした刀で、この世に存在する「黒」の全てを支配する力を持ち、一文字に黒く塗り潰されたものは名を失い、能力や性質を無効化される。解号は「黒めよ」。そして、一般的な斬魄刀でいう”卍解”は、「真打・しら筆一文字」。「最初に生まれた”進化した斬魄刀”」である。対象となるものに白の墨で「新たな名」を刻み、そのと同じ性質へと変換してしまう。


霊王宮防衛戦では、ユーハバッハに「黒」の名を書き込み、虫けら同然の存在へと変質させた
 
P1) If something has a name, Ichibe named it
P2) Our universe has a name
C1) Ichibe gave our universe name
P3) For all x, if Ichibei named it, than ichibei has complete influence over it.
C2) Ichibe has complete influence over the universe
P4) If something has complete control over the universe, they are universal
C3) Ichibe is universal
 
Here you go.

霊王を守る王族特務・零番隊の実質的な頭目。「真名呼和尚」の二つ名を持つ。万物の「真名」を司る存在であり、尸魂界の開闢以来、あらゆる物象や事象に「名」を与え、名を与えたものに干渉し影響を及ぼす事ができる。兵主部の斬魄刀『一文字」は、巨大な筆の形状をした刀で、この世に存在する「黒」の全てを支配する力を持ち、一文字に黒く塗り潰されたものは名を失い、能力や性質を無効化される。解号は「黒めよ」。そして、一般的な斬魄刀でいう”卍解”は、「真打・しら筆一文字」。「最初に生まれた”進化した斬魄刀”」である。対象となるものに白の墨で「新たな名」を刻み、そのと同じ性質へと変換してしまう。


霊王宮防衛戦では、ユーハバッハに「黒」の名を書き込み、虫けら同然の存在へと変質させた


He is the de facto leader of the Royal Special Force Zero Division, tasked with protecting the Soul King. He holds the title of "True Name-Calling Monk." As a being overseeing the "true names" of all things, he has given names to every object and phenomena since the creation of the Soul Society, allowing him to influence and interfere with that which is named. His Zanpakuto, "Ichimonji," is a sword in the shape of a large brush that possesses the power to control all "black" in existence. Anything painted black with Ichimonji loses its name, rendering its abilities and properties nullified. Its release command is "Stain Black." The equivalent of a typical Zanpakuto's "Bankai" is "True Form: Shirafude Ichimonji," considered the "first evolved Zanpakuto." It engraves a "new name" in white ink onto the target, transforming it to take on that same property.

In the defense of the Soul King's Palace, he wrote the name of "black” onto Yhwach, transforming him into a mere insect-like being. (The text says black instead of black ant, im not sure why lol)
 
Btw from the new info, it seems Ichibei can "name" events itself. If that's the case then you could perhaps argue conceptual fate hax or smth like that which makes sense given he could steal hundred nights into the "future" soo he has some form of time manipulation which is why Yhwach upgraded his power to third pupil which seems to indicate that either Ichibei have blocked his ability to see and alter future as he already knows Yhwach can manipulate futures given the context that this time around we seen him teleporting and seeing futures or made an event where Yhwach was destined to be erased by his shrine technique

There is also this fact that Ichibei was "surprised" when Yhwach mimicked his sentence word by word which hints that Ichibei did "NOT" expected that to happen and he knows his power already. The third eye was there to forcefully null Ichibei stuff which seems to be a case layering.

So in the end, I think the conceptual powernull scaling chain goes like this soo far:

The third pupil Almighty > Two pupil Almighty (after awakening and fully controlled) > Ichibei's Shrine technique > Two pupil Almighty (before awakening) > Ichibei's casual conceptual hax
 
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P1) If something has a name, Ichibe named it
P2) Our universe has a name
C1) Ichibe gave our universe name
P3) For all x, if Ichibei named it, than ichibei has complete influence over it.
C2) Ichibe has complete influence over the universe
P4) If something has complete control over the universe, they are universal
C3) Ichibe is universal
What's the universe's true name?
 
The phenomenon of "all that exists" (Bog standard definition of the universe) is named the universe. Ichibe, as the namer of this phenomenon has complete influence over it.

Edit: "Universe" is the name.
 
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