BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Peter1129]

@AnimesFreak2 The whole transcendents can’t be sensed concept has probably been dropped. Cause there’s way too many cases of transcendent characters being sensed in TYBW.

I’m just going by the definition for transcendent given by Aizen and Squad 0 does fit it in a way since they aren’t pure shinigami anymore after their body got turned into Oken. Not to mention the whole casually shaking three realms at full power stuff.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

I mean you can still be sensed if you allow them too as a transcendent.

But yeah it’s probably a dropped concept.

Well I mean obviously but I am more so talking of being able to sense their true power simply because you are that strong rather than said transcendent intentionally lowering their power to lower levels

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Ganju senses Shutara’s Bankai. She ain’t transcendent.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Can someone confirm if this is real Q&A? Or fan-made

 

[Adam1396]

Can someone confirm if this is real Q&A? Or fan-made

It's real.
Aizen didn’t want to engage with him in fight because he would be troublesome.

 

[Adam1396]

Ain't some of phenomenon type 1 concept?

 

[Adam1396]

Conceptual absorption for Yhwach

This will be very straight forward. Names in Bleach are concepts with meaning, power assigned to it. Name is someone's fundamental aspect of existence (concept) Ichibe needs to name ichigo as "reio" to function as reio despite having the requirements of reio, again meaning name is important...

vsbattles.com

Guys help me get this accepted. This is a deserved addition for yhwach

 

[Hellscream]

I'll see if i can cook up CM1 ichibei at some point

 

[Hellscream]

Will be way easier for Soul King to get it though

 

[AppleLord]

Transcendent Reiatsu not been sensed was dropped like God Ki not been sensed.

 

[SlendVeny]

Transcendent Reiatsu not been sensed was dropped like God Ki not been sensed.

The God Ki thing still happens, it's just that basically nobody has purely God Ki now.

 

[That_moron2]

Ganju senses Shutara’s Bankai. She ain’t transcendent.

Or perhaps Ganju is on the same realm as she is

 

[Hellscream]

Yhwach should have limited immeasurable speed with The Almighty tbh
Kinda surprised it hasn't been done yet

Perfectly showcased it against ichibei

 

[That_moron2]

 

[Naeblis495]

Educate this person.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Are there people who genuinely think Dangai Ichigo is weaker than Bankai Yamamoto? Seriously?

 

[Adam1396]

Bankai yamamoto would be like an infant in front of shutara..

Dangai ichigo would one tap shutara.

Now guess yourself.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

If you want to tackle cm type 1 Ichibe message deceived

 

[Excellence616]

Are there people who genuinely think Dangai Ichigo is weaker than Bankai Yamamoto? Seriously?

Nothing new to me. I have seen people saying Yamamoto would oneshot the Squad Zero and he is equal to or slightly stronger than Ichibe. They tend to is argument of "No Shinigami in a thousand years is stronger than me and that he has the strongest Zanpakuto".

 

[AppleLord]

The God Ki thing still happens, it's just that basically nobody has purely God Ki now.

Frieza doesn’t have God Ki but can sense it. Makes no sense.

 

[AppleLord]

The tanslation card with Senjumaru’s power says her Bankai adapts and changes to counter the opponents power. Sounds like that is what Mayuri did to his zanpakutou to use against Pernida.

 

[AppleLord]

Anyone notice that since this is Uryu’s first time going Vollstandig is taking a toll on his body. This is something the female Quincy mentioned.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Nothing new to me. I have seen people saying Yamamoto would oneshot the Squad Zero and he is equal to or slightly stronger than Ichibe. They tend to is argument of "No Shinigami in a thousand years is stronger than me and that he has the strongest Zanpakuto".

I remember people saying that since they assumed Yamamoto beat Almighty Yhwach 1000 years ago. Thankfully, episode 24 put that to rest.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Any potential arguments for Yamamoto against Ichibei almost 100% finally died when it was confirmed Yhwach was nerfed by Pernida when he fought Old Man Yama years ago and then 100% confirmed when Shutara unleashed her Bankai

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

fug Ichibe might just be 2-C

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

fug Ichibe might just be 2-C

2-C but couldn't even pull off his ult rip what a fraud

 

[Peter1129]

@AnimesFreak2 Yamamoto fell down the rankings really hard. Like dude really went from being just outside the top 5 in the manga to just barely in the top 10 with the novels and now with the anime and Klub Outside info he’s probably not even among the top 15 or top 20 end of series now.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I was watching the new episode again with some friends, and heard them go "Ichibe and Shutara's Bankai are like Domain Expansion", and I felt like one of those boomers watching the kids go "baby gronk ohio rizz" and wanted to kilometer second.

 

[Naeblis495]

Ditch those friends, fr.

 

[Aernasilver]

I was watching the new episode again with some friends, and heard them go "Ichibe and Shutara's Bankai are like Domain Expansion", and I felt like one of those boomers watching the kids go "baby gronk ohio rizz" and wanted to kilometer second.

Alright grandpa let’s get you to bed.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

@AnimesFreak2 Yamamoto fell down the rankings really hard. Like dude really went from being just outside the top 5 in the manga to just barely in the top 10 with the novels and now with the anime and Klub Outside info he’s probably not even among the top 15 or top 20 end of series now.

Even with novel scaling Yama ain't top 10 anymore lmao

Not in any particular order I would say the current overall Top 10 of Bleach are

1. Ichigo
2. Yhwach
3. Aizen
4. Hikone
5. Ikimikidome
6. Kenpachi
7. Reio

And then just off the fact there are 5 S0 members is enough to say Yama def ain't Top 10 lol

 

[Hellscream]

Even with novel scaling Yama ain't top 10 anymore lmao

Not in any particular order I would say the current overall Top 10 of Bleach are

1. Ichigo
2. Yhwach
3. Aizen
4. Hikone
5. Ikimikidome
6. Kenpachi
7. Reio

And then just off the fact there are 5 S0 members is enough to say Yama def ain't Top 10 lol

Never cook again

Even if you said in no particular order, reio at nr 7?
Ichigo above Yhwach?

 

[Peter1129]

Even with novel scaling Yama ain't top 10 anymore lmao

Not in any particular order I would say the current overall Top 10 of Bleach are

1. Ichigo
2. Yhwach
3. Aizen
4. Hikone
5. Ikimikidome
6. Kenpachi
7. Reio

And then just off the fact there are 5 S0 members is enough to say Yama def ain't Top 10 lol

The ones 100% above Yamamoto by now in no particular order would be

Soul King
Yhwach
Ichigo
Aizen
Kenpachi
Ikomikidomoe
Hikone
Mimihagi
Uryu
Haschwalth
Ichibe
Oetsu
Senjumaru
Tenjiro
Kirio
Lille

That’s already 16 so yeah Yamamoto’s out of top 15 already. Others that could be above Yamamoto are

Gerard (Got like one buff more than the manga so I could see him possibly scaling above Yamamoto in his Vollständig 2nd Form)

Royd/Loyd (Depending on who they copy they could actually beat Yamamoto like say Yhwach during the Ichibe fight)

Ginjo (He had like that one move that was even more powerful than True Zanpakuto Ichigo’s Getsuga Tensho right? So if he gets that move off he could one shot Yamamoto)

Hell (Hell’s been hyped up for a while now so there’s likely something in it that’s stronger than Yamamoto)

 

[SlendVeny]

Frieza doesn’t have God Ki but can sense it. Makes no sense.

Can he?

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Never cook again

Even if you said in no particular order, reio at nr 7?
Ichigo above Yhwach?

Acknowledges I put them in random order

Still acts as if though I put in them order I think they are

Bleach stans smh

 

[Naeblis495]

Ichigo above Yhwach?

In pure power/stats ? Absolutely, Ichigo is a LOT stronger than even peak SK Yhwach.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Bleach stans smh

nah just hellscream

 

[Hellscream]

nah just hellscream

Man came up with 20 year old feats and thought to himself, Eureka!

 

[Hellscream]

Bleach stans smh

I mean, considering you actually decided to put numbers next to them, as opposed to just naming the 10 strongest characters there has to be some sort of bias right

Even if you said "In no particular order"

+ ur overall top 10 list has 7 characters math aint mathing

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

fug Ichibe might just be 2-C

Now I'm actually curious for the reasoning