BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Adam1396]

Only thing i want to see in the anime is Yhwach using a stenritter ability that he absorbed, so people can finally shut their trap

And some elaboration on the cosmology

No. Thay would be insult to almighty. There's nothing to prove.

I think we might get something on Cosmos

 

[Adam1396]

Y

Alright, for the smartest Bleach characters, I have a top 10 list, is this a good list?

10. Gin

9. Unohana/Shunsui

8. Yamaji

7. Toshiro

6. Tokinada

5. Szayelaporro

4. Mayuri

3. Ichibei

2. Aizen

1. Urahara

0. Don Kanoji

Yhwach should be number 1/2. Don't forget base yhwach said he could deal with aizen. That would include hogyoku. Also he is by far best warlord. Good list, just missing askin

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

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Yhwach should be number 1/2. Don't forget base yhwach said he could deal with aizen. That would include hogyoku. Also he is by far best warlord. Good list, just missing askin

Askin is difficult to rank, plus I'm not sure if Yhwach would just be a genius or possibly more. I know Almighty Yhwach probably is

 

[Saibotsan]

Looks like someone cooked here, Aizen-sama naturally superior

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

This, this does put a smile on my face

 

[Robo432343]

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Urahara fanboys: He solos both with prep

 

[Arcker123]

Extraordinary Genius Intelligence and Preparation

Who added this? This is completely unnecessary and just looks ugly. No other profile lists it like this. No profile lists Genius Intelligence as an ability as anything other, you give the types in the intelligence section, not P&A. It doesn't even flow grammatically.

 

[Arcker123]

Zabuza drove Sasuke, who barely knew anything about him or his village or his techniques other than that his sword was big and fast, to nearly attempt suicide just by being within a few dozen meters of him, and Orochimaru made Kakashi, who was unfazed by that, see himself dying just by glaring at him.

 

[Bastolan27]

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Yhwach should be number 1/2. Don't forget base yhwach said he could deal with aizen. That would include hogyoku. Also he is by far best warlord. Good list, just missing askin

Askin is difficult to rank, plus I'm not sure if Yhwach would just be a genius or possibly more. I know Almighty Yhwach probably is

Bruh, I don't know how many times I have to say this. Supergenius Yhwach is not a joke. I think we should wait for the Almighty explanation in the anime, but he literally meets the non-technological requirement. Also, confirming Supergenius Bleach might help us with the Aizen and Urahara downplay.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Bruh, I don't know how many times I have to say this. Supergenius Yhwach is not a joke. I think we should wait for the Almighty explanation in the anime, but he literally meets the non-technological requirement. Also, confirming Supergenius Bleach might help us with the Aizen and Urahara downplay.

I mean in general, ofc supergenius Yhwach makes sense to me.

 

[Deceived3596]

What are y'alls opinions on the light speed Cero meta?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

What are y'alls opinions on the light speed Cero meta?

Wish we could turn back time

 

[Arcker123]

What are y'alls opinions on the light speed Cero meta?

There are better methods to get early Bleach to LS.

 

[GOATMAN1232000]

I prefer the Negacion. Everybody and their grandmother is lightspeed.

In the matter of speed, does anyone know how fast Uryu's arrows were in the first arc? I remember him shooting Hollows that appear all over Karakura as soon as they step out of the Garganta, but I haven't found a calc for it.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

For those that dislike the lightspeed Cero meta, what're your issues with it?

 

[Ped2018]

For those that dislike the lightspeed Cero meta, what're your issues with it?

Doesn't fit my agenda

 

[Arcker123]

For those that dislike the lightspeed Cero meta, what're your issues with it?

Too contentious and wont net anything more impressive then scaling off the shadow blitz from Uryu. Too much work for to little.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Too contentious and wont net anything more impressive then scaling off the shadow blitz from Uryu. Too much work for to little.

What parts are too contentious in your opinion

 

[Bastolan27]

For those that dislike the lightspeed Cero meta, what're your issues with it?

An argument can be made for baseline Ceros being lightspeed (e.g., Menos Grande from the Substitute Shinigami arc). Any Cero from a stronger character would be faster. This gets bleach to Lightspeed but doesn't cap it there. I just think the wiki wouldn't accept it.

 

[Arcker123]

What parts are too contentious in your opinion

Explosion/Mass nerds

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

For those that dislike the lightspeed Cero meta, what're your issues with it?

Because there are better Cero feats later in the series and there are better FTL feats early on that don't use them

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Explosion/Mass nerds

1) they don't have mass, 2) explosions aren't contradicitons

Because there are better Cero feats later in the series and there are better FTL feats early on that don't use them

So it's just a preference thingy?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

So it's just a preference thingy?

Sort of. Honestly the best Cero feats are Ichigo intercepting GRC, Nel easily sending back Nnoitra's Cero, and of course Shunsui dodging Cero Metralleta. The best early FTL feats are Uryu's shadow blitz and lieutenants dodging Negacion.

 

[Arcker123]

1) they don't have mass, 2) explosions aren't contradicitons


So it's just a preference thingy?

Can you explain number two. The argument for them having mass is them exploding so if thats not necessarily entailed then Ig I have no issue.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Can you explain number two. The argument for them having mass is them exploding so if thats not necessarily entailed then Ig I have no issue.

Rapid increases in heat can create explosions

 

[Adam1396]

Askin is difficult to rank, plus I'm not sure if Yhwach would just be a genius or possibly more. I know Almighty Yhwach probably is

Concept of intelligence should not matter in front almighty if it actually sees

 

[Robo432343]

yhwach is beyond the concept of intelligence, existence and nonexistence

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Madara to Yhwachn't: Bro, you don't even know the difference between illusion and reality.
Wake up to reality!!!

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Why do they always let people become hollows when they could just fill the holes back up? Are they stupid?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Why do they always let people become hollows when they could just fill the holes back up? Are they stupid?

Don Kanonji grindset

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Why do they always let people become hollows when they could just fill the holes back up? Are they stupid?

Because Hollow's holes are cool

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Don Kanonji grindset

Don is my favorite character his name is so fun to pronounce and he just looks and acts goofy

 

[Tyri456]

Kaguya can regenerate from her Chakra which is her spiritual energy -> Mid Godly which Zaraki gets stopped by

Not really, thats an oversimplification and not the definition of mid-godly at all, mid godly is complete regeneration of mind body and soul which kaguya never remotely proved to be capable of, kaguya regeneration is low-godly at best and thats when she revert her form to the rabbit-like state, before that she could not even regen the arm they cut from her.

 

[Tyri456]

Kubo came out and said Iba is blind. How? Aizen used KS on him and Kira to pretend he was Momo and slash both of them. Did Kubo forgot Aizen said KS doesn’t work on blind like Tousen? And why does Iba have the eyes of the Soul King in Kubo’s drawing?

KS most likely works even on blind people given in CFYOW its confirmed it works even on just Reiryoku, so you can even be blind as show on fullbring arc.
Probably the whole blind thing was just to mask Tosen but Tosen was never with Aizen because he is blind as explained in CFYOW.
Also it worked on Barragan.

 

[Deceived3596]

I came back with the milk.

 

[Excellence616]

If Starrk/Lilynette can passively kill hollows if any comes close to them and the Espadas, Aizen and Co. and others can stand close to them without any problem wouldn't they get Resistance to Passive Death Manipulation?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

If Starrk/Lilynette can passively kill hollows if any comes close to them and the Espadas, Aizen and Co. and others can stand close to them without any problem wouldn't they get Resistance to Passive Death Manipulation?

We don't have death manip currently for Reiatsu Crush. Although that is a change worthy for a CRT

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Should I?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

It’s better to ask for forgiveness than permission. Dew it.