BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[AppleLord]

Hey, everyone! Doesn't Base Yhwach deserve Self-Resurrection?

From the anime flashback, Yamamoto straight up killed him with his bankai slash. And according to the legend... The Confined Quincy King poem makes it seem like Yhwach effectively did die. "The Confined Quincy King regains his pulse after 900 years..." pretty strongly implies Yhwach was straight up clinically dead for 900 years after his battle against Yamamoto and the OG Gotei. Ichibei said Yhwach would regain "Almighty" the moment he died. Yhwach could had use his Almighty to bring himself back to life? Because the other part of the poem says that if he is to open his eyes before time he would robe all Quincies of their powers. He had Almighty since Yamamoto killed him but he never used it until the Ichibei fight.

 

[AppleLord]

I've a calc that puts Senjumaru's feat at 4-B! ;p

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

It’s 4-A

 

[Crobatman44]

It’s 4-A

How's the Birthday going?

 

[Reio35]

Are the 3 realms excepted as universes individually?

 

[Crobatman44]

Are the 3 realms excepted as universes individually?

Hill sized universes iirc.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

How's the Birthday going?

Went well

Are the 3 realms excepted as universes individually?

The realms are accepted as both the planets and the universes depending on the context, which basically means we just accept them as planets in terms of how they’re used currently

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Went well


The realms are accepted as both the planets and the universes depending on the context, which basically means we just accept them as planets in terms of how they’re used currently

Why do people wine over this again?

 

[LordTracer]

Why do people wine over this again?

Because this fandom really likes to whine

 

[Crobatman44]

Because this fandom really likes to whine

Bleach fandom is genetically coded to whine more than the average human.
True facts right here.
Universe sized,Planet sized,Hill sized, i would just roll with what we get instead of just whining about it tbh.
Edit:btw just tell me if im using the Hill size joke too much,i'll stop in that case.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Are the 3 realms excepted as universes individually?

no, they're not accepted as universes individually for the important statements

 

[AppleLord]

Are the 3 realms excepted as universes individually?

Senjumaru reiatsu reaches 3 worlds

vsbattles.fandom.com

New calc have at it!

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Senjumaru reiatsu reaches 3 worlds

vsbattles.fandom.com

New calc have at it!

References for Common Feats

Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[AppleLord]

References for Common Feats

Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Thanks. I did two calcs.

1. High-Ball assumes all 3 worlds are parrallel universes in size.
2. Low-Ball assumes 1 universe cut in half, with 3 planets and 2 of them are in the spirit world basically other side of the plate.

Result: either one is 4-B.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

The calc we would use would more than likely be the 4-A one

 

[AnAverageUsername]

The calc we would use would more than likely be the 4-A one

And multipliers, what would that get up to

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Who knows, we will wait and see what the anime does for the scaling.

 

[Reio35]

With

The calc we would use would more than likely be the 4-A one

Would yama upscale since he beat base yhwach 1000 years ago? Maybe even FB ichigo to since he could hand with yhwach for a bit

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

With
Would yama upscale since he beat base yhwach 1000 years ago? Maybe even FB ichigo to since he could hand with yhwach for a bit

No, Yama has no scaling to beating a nerfed Yhwach

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

With
Would yama upscale since he beat base yhwach 1000 years ago? Maybe even FB ichigo to since he could hand with yhwach for a bit

yama only won vs a nerfed YH

 

[Reio35]

No, Yama has no scaling to beating a nerfed Yhwach

Yhwach only had his Almighty sealed away but his power was the same. Base yhwach could also fight to ichibei who yhwach considered to be the strongest soul reaper

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Yhwach was nerfed after being stabbed in the back, Yama does not scale.

 

[Reio35]

Yhwach was nerfed after being stabbed in the back, Yama does not scale.

U being mad goofy rn Yhwach was already beaten up before being stabbed

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Provide a timestamp for me and the episode number

 

[Dbknowitall]

With
Would yama upscale since he beat base yhwach 1000 years ago? Maybe even FB ichigo to since he could hand with yhwach for a bit

Nerft Yhwach by some deductive reasoning and some assumption was at best on par with Ryod/Fake Yhwach
When Yamamoto was fighting Fake Yhwach he saw nothing wrong with the power he showed and Yamamoto being the one that fought him 1000 years ago would be the best to understand that, if Yhwach was drastically weaker he would of notice something was wrong

so Nerft Yhwach/1000 years ago = Shikai Yamamoto/TYBW

Yhwach 1000 years ago = 2 Almighty Pupils/was sealed by Ichibei
Yhwach during TYBW/Pre SK = 3 Almighty Pupils
Soul King = 4 Almighty Pupils

 

[Excellence616]

Yhwach only had his Almighty sealed away but his power was the same. Base yhwach could also fight to ichibei who yhwach considered to be the strongest soul reaper

Ichibei Vs Yhwach (who already absorbed some Sternritters)>>>1000 years ago Almighty Sealed Yhwach Vs 1000 years ago Yamamoto

 

[Ovy7]

Yama doesn't in any way, shape, or form scales to the Unrestricted Royal Guards. Like, Senjumaru herself spoke his name like he's some youngster lmfao, like "oh wow, you managed to beat Genryusai. Good on you, Yhwach. thumbs up emoji"

 

[KazuiK]

Is there any calculation for Ichigo destroying Yukio's pocket dimension?

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Is there any calculation for Ichigo destroying Yukio's pocket dimension?

no because it's of unknown size and would scale below anything we could reasonably calc otherwise, AKA waste of energy

 

[Excellence616]

 

[Excellence616]

 

[Sasukesama0492]

Senjumaru reiatsu reaches 3 worlds

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[AnAverageUsername]

What are these

 

[Excellence616]

What are these

Rumor has it that they might be some announcement about Cour 3 and 4, Burn The Witch, or new Manga.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

watashi no schirfto "N", za ni-

 

[Excellence616]

 

[Npc170]

So is Squad Zero and anyone that scales to them being upgraded to 4-A then?

 

[Excellence616]

So is Squad Zero and anyone that scales to them being upgraded to 4-A then?

No, they will scale lower than that.

 

[Tyri456]

we actually don’t know if the base Yhwach of 1000 yo is strong as the current, actually he is for sure weaker since the current one absorbed people like gremmy lol

backstab in bleach are most likely fatal hits too

not to mention that ichibei straight up overpowered Yhwach’s Blut with physical force, so he is also stronger
there is no scaling between Yhwach 1000 yo and Senjumaru.

 

[Crobatman44]

we actually don’t know if the base Yhwach of 1000 yo is strong as the current, actually he is for sure weaker since the current one absorbed people like gremmy lol

backstab in bleach are most likely fatal hits too

not to mention that ichibei straight up overpowered Yhwach’s Blut with physical force, so he is also stronger
there is no scaling between Yhwach 1000 yo and Senjumaru.

Even FKT Aizen had a kido to protect the back of his neck as well.
Oh and Askin getting pierced.