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I’ve been chatting with IMade, Deceived, and Sigurd. After I make the cour 2 general AP revisions, I’ll be making a thread to discuss Shutara.
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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are you talking about base squad zero or empowered bankai squad zero
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The four horseman of the apocalypse
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Got to deal with space ships and everyone being in the same universe.
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NNT reference.
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He does yhwach was regaining his original power he had 1000 years ago during his fight with yama
When royd fought him he saw yhwachs memories yhwach was bloody and fatigued
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Yes that was after he got stabbed in the back you doofus. Yhwach wasn't injured, then he was stabbed in the back, then slammed by ZnT, those other flashbacks were after that.
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I like how you asked specifically for a timestamp and episode number and Reio proceeded to read with his eyes closed.
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What do you think about this calculation?
Senjumaru reiatsu reaches 3 worlds
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TBYW Base Yhach>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Past Base Yhwach
This had been made clear
This had been made clear
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Naw
Injured past Yhwach < past Bankai Yama =< Bankai Yama ~ cour 1 TYBW Yhwach < cour 2 TYBW Yhwach = past Yhwach (the Kaiser Gesang is a story of regaining lost power, not getting stronger than before)
It's just that Yhwach in the past after getting stabbed through the chest was substantially weaker than his full base power, because the Yhwach that can control Bankai Yama's power hasn't even finished the 9 years of regaining the strength he lost. So we can deduce that after being sneak attacked base Yhwach was just heavily weakened, as would a wound through the chest do to anyone.
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Shunsui Downgrade?(joking i know unmasked exists).
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How do you read this and mention Shunsui
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I don't need a time stamp you can just go rewatch the fight instead of being lazy. Yhwach didn't stabbed till the end Bruhh. Even kubo said after he stabbed him then yama hit him the fight was pretty much over. Also if you look in the flash back bro was standing behind him waiting to stab yhwach in the back while he was fighting yama.
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Shunsui's backstab to the chest on Staark but i know Unmasked contradicts the notion that Shunsui did not surpass Staark full power.
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Didn't unmask say that they were equal. Even then i disagree with that because it took like shunsui plus 2 other captains to beat him
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I dunno i just used what was on Shunsui's profile ATM.
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Scaling top 2 or 3 espada is mess though, but I feel like you can scale them quite high if you use baragan statements from CFYOW.
starrk and baragan could be stronger than Gin or Tosen if you that scaling.
shunsui FKT > Gin, make sense to me tbh. His databook stats were higher than Gin, speed too.
FKT shunsui >> Mach 1000.
starrk and baragan could be stronger than Gin or Tosen if you that scaling.
shunsui FKT > Gin, make sense to me tbh. His databook stats were higher than Gin, speed too.
FKT shunsui >> Mach 1000.
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Not if you use the forbidden Gin scaling that wankers use.
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(For anyone that is gonna quote me saying that Aizen wanted to kill the espada alone, simply Tosen was one of Aizen best friend, and Gin was a friend as well/wanted to see how Gin would have betrayed him, so Aizen killing espada and not Tosen or gin is more him not giving a **** about Hollows)
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as if it ever made sense, gin is an ant to shinjgami Aizen, let alone scaling him to his god form
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Just because we are shown a flashback in episode 7 does not mean it takes place prior to what we see in episode 6.
Prior to Yhwach getting backstabbed in the past he has no blood or injuries on his body whatsoever. Then in the flashbacks within episode 6 we see Yhwach is bloodied. So using the most basic and simple logic, we can deduce that Yhwach didn't get beat up until after he got stabbed in the back, since prior to Sasakibe's sneak attack, Yhwach had no visible damage on him whatsoever.
Yama doesn't scale to Squad 0's full power goofy goober.
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Reio headcanon > Kubo’s word and Guide??!!! Real solid w
Anyways, for anyone that chooses to have good reading comprehension, Starrk started fighting seriously, with all his power, and all his determination against Shunsui. Shunsui hadn’t been fighting with his 100% before, since he couldn’t use his actual shikai ability and his Zanpakutō itself didn’t let him, right until the end. Starrk manifested his Reishi blades the same way he manifested his wolves, and chose to use them against Shunsui over using the wolves. That same ability was held to the same regard by Cien as the wolves too, hence it’s clear they’re the same ability, manifested as a pair of swords instead of as a wolf.
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Those databook stats are for the Soul Society arc… Tōshiro has the same AP as Gin them, despite being weaker than FKT Gin
Though, I do agree it’s very possible that he’s massively hypersonic+
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Wait Cour 2 Base Yhwach>Cour 1 Base Yhwach? Was there something I am forgetting ( is it cause the more sterns die the more power he gets back? )
But wasn't him still being weakened simply him lacking his almighty ( which as we know is a massive amp to his stats )
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Yes, he's been getting stronger all throughout the TYBW
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Really and truly it's just power immunity due to his higher existence which is what the data books say.
Unmask states isshin cant harm aizen Because they aren't same plane and that aizen can't be harmed by attacks because he reached a higher existence. Isshin also stated only someone in the same space/plane as aizen can harm him
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The Almighty isn't a power amp lmao. Also had the Almighty the whole war. He just didn't have the power to control it properly till the 9 days where up
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Yeah, no. Starrk in resurrecion sneaking on Shunsui with his gun phiscally touching his back managed to do no damage meanwhile resurrecion Tousen oneshots Tengen myio...
Barragan having similar reiatsu to Ikomikidomoe is still peak Narita nonsese, without respiria he's not relevant, like Soi fon victim level. Ikomikidomoe physically is vastly stronger than the espada by actual feats
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"power immunity"... dude... why do you have to make up terms
It's just his durability is way higher, that simple
it does not say this
The argument for "Almighty isn't a power amp" is non-existent, and any you WOULD make would be awful and go against what we see, just like all your other arguments.
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So now your trying to throw sneak shots? Show me a single scan that says the Almighty is amp. Yhwach literally stated it a scrift/hax that allows one to control the future. Anything else is your head cannon. And plp here for the most part dont debunk my arguments. You and everyone else just goes along with whatever meta arc comes out with like a bunch of bees in a hive. Which is pretty pathetic if you ask me
The reason i say power immunity he was immune to attacks due to his higher existence.
It pretty much says he's in a higher plane.
" 攻撃を"理解”はできるが傷を負うことはない。対峙しても、同じ目線に在らず。
He can "understand" the attack but won't be harmed by it. Even in a stand-off, they won't be on the same standing point"
Their not on the" same standing point "aka plane. Which is also backed up by manga isshin saying aizen is like a ghost and isn't even their in the same space.
"He's certainly terrifyingly strong... but even if you fight or cut, it feels like there's nothing there.
Only someone standing in the same space as him would be able to feel Aizen's power right now."
Also notice how isshin says it's not just his power but his existence is also odd
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That's false, we are explicitly told that Yhwach only regained his full power when his Almighty awoke.
Undre, go and reread the manga.
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nahh Bruhh barrgan took her rocket to the face which is suppose to be a one shot. Look what it did to bg9. Also barrgan in base was blzitinh her easy
Starrks ceros aren't suppose to be that strong tbh because he's firing them rapidly. Even the vizards could tank them. Shun only beat a fatigued starrk who exploded away most of his soul he doesn't scale at all. Also ikomodomei got paralyzed by Candice and harmed by the other espada.
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They can't handle the truth. Bleach is 4-B. :")
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Your completely wrong. It says it took 9 years to regain his strength so he can use the Almighty. Also power refers to hax in this context. Yhwach has described several times what the Almighty does and never did he say it was ap related
