BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[That_moron2]

I did some math earlier. If base Renji is 1 yottaton and then Mask briefly overwhelms him, and then VSD is x10 then Renji>Yama.

 

[Tyri456]

I did some math earlier. If base Renji is 1 yottaton and then Mask briefly overwhelms him, and then VSD is x10 then Renji>Yama.

Bankai Renji is a base Yama victim

 

[Reio35]

Do yall think yama can break quilge's jail?

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Do yall think yama can break quilge's jail?

100%

 

[Blallooo]

Why is this fanbase still stuck at the arrancar arc and Espada power scaling wise ? Some comments are horrifying

 

[Excellence616]

100%

It's meant to hold anyone other than Quinces.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

DNC yamamoto slams

It's meant to hold anyone other than Quinces.

 

[Excellence616]

DNC yamamoto slams

Maybe

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Pre Vollstandig Mask has 0 scaling to Renji. Dude did 0 damage to Renji, all he did was send him into the air, which is lifting strength scaling at best. It’s more like Vollstandig Mask is probably above Shikai Renji since he forced him to use Bankai.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

When Renji was being sent flying he had a bored look on his face

 

[Excellence616]

My Sternritter Strength Ranking (Not based on AP, hax is considered too)

1. Jugram (Hax and Ap)
2. Lile Barro (Hax)
3. Gerard Valkyrie (Hax and Ap)
4. Gremmy (Hax and Ap)
5. Askin (Hax)
6. Pernida (Hax)
7. Bazz B (Ap)
8. Nianzol (Hax)
9. Bambietta (Hax and mobility)
10. Mask De Masculine (Growing Ap and being hard to kill somewhat)

0. Gremmy (If he was smarter)

1. Jugram

2. Gerard

3. Pernida

4. Lile Barro

5. Uryu

6. Askin

7. Royd

8. Loyd

9. Bazz B

10. As Nodt

 

[Excellence616]

When Renji was being sent flying he had a bored look on his face

Guy thinks he is Dangai Ichigo

 

[That_moron2]

Pre Vollstandig Mask has 0 scaling to Renji. Dude did 0 damage to Renji, all he did was send him into the air, which is lifting strength scaling at best. It’s more like Vollstandig Mask is probably above Shikai Renji since he forced him to use Bankai.

Thank god.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Guy thinks he is Dangai Ichigo

tbf he acted like that with jackie

 

[That_moron2]

8. Loyd

9. Bazz B

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I think I'm manifesting the almighty, I keep seeing these posts in the future

it's just mobile forum being buggy I know

 

[Tyri456]

Shikai Shunsui was pressing Base Lille after the Auswhalen-amp, Elites were already superior to sternitters before that amp, so that speak for itself.

Why the hell shunsui was ******* around so much against Robert?

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Dangai Renji > Dangai Ichigo

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Dangai Renji > Dangai Ichigo

dangai rukia>

 

[Excellence616]

Dangai Ichigo > Dangai Renji

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

dangai rukia>

Show her with the small/narrow eyes or cap

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Show her with the small/narrow eyes or cap

Soon™

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

i dont see why we cant use the manga when is just for details

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

i dont see why we cant use the manga when is just for details

I might have to make a clarifying thread on my last thread ngl.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

i dont see why we cant use the manga when is just for details

Equivalent exchange

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Equivalent exchange

We went a decade without the anime, there’s nothing “equivalent” about this exchange.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Going by the staff posts in your thread, a statement absent from the anime but in the manga would no longer be considered canon.




Obviously, if a statement exists in the manga but not the anime, which is the primary canon, that would be considered a discrepancy.

I do feel like some statements from the manga, cut from the anime still should be considered canon. Primarily Bazz cancelling Yama's Ryujin Jakka. As that explains why they were able to survive.

 

[Apotheosis69]

0. Gremmy (If he was smarter)

1. Jugram

2. Gerard

3. Pernida

4. Lile Barro

5. Uryu

6. Askin

7. Royd

8. Loyd

9. Bazz B

10. As Nodt

~~Hope that Gremmy one is a joke.~~

 

[AnAverageUsername]

We went a decade without the anime, there’s nothing “equivalent” about this exchange.

Skill issue tbh

 

[KINGWILLTHEGREAT0815]

Imo we should use 7.5x since Yoruichi gave a general range, we should just take the average, it’s the least partial end.

I feel that’s a lot more fair then straight up using the low end for every last Bankai. People like Yama and ichibei definitely should get 10x amp for their Bankai

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Yama’s Bankai prolly far beyond 10x tbh

 

[KINGWILLTHEGREAT0815]

Yama’s Bankai prolly far beyond 10x tbh

It probably is but he should get at least 10x likely greater on his profile for his Bankai amp. Same for ichibei

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Yama’s Bankai prolly far beyond 10x tbh

It's not like Yoruichi knew about the power of Yama's bankai when she made that statement right? Yamamoto is definitely beyond that range, though sadly unquantifiable.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

I think at least 10x likely higher makes much more sense

 

[Reio35]

Royd could tank blows from yamas shikai. Yet gets vaporized by his bankai. So yama's bankai is way beyond 10× it's probably over 1000× since it can vape royd.

Gin,Byakuya,Kommura,soifon,zaraki ichigo ect all have bankai beyond 10×

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Unfortunately that’s never getting accepted with our multiplier standards so don’t get too excited. Valid for off site scaling or speculation tho

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Unfortunately that’s never getting accepted with our multiplier standards so don’t get too excited. Valid for off site scaling or speculation tho

I man it can probably very easily be reasoned that Yama deserves a 10x multiplier due to being by far the strongest in the 13 Court Guard Squad and having over a thousand years of experience.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I man it can probably very easily be reasoned that Yama deserves a 10x multiplier due to being by far the strongest in the 13 Court Guard Squad and having over a thousand years of experience.

Unfortunately that’s never getting accepted with our multiplier standards so don’t get too excited. Valid for off site scaling or speculation tho

I repeat myself

 

[Reio35]

Unfortunately that’s never getting accepted with our multiplier standards so don’t get too excited. Valid for off site scaling or speculation tho

So we cant scale off the degree of damage you deal to someone? Their are different levels of damage, bruising, severe, blown to pieces,turned to dust and vaporized

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

So we cant scale off the degree of damage you deal to someone? Their are different levels of damage, bruising, severe, blown to pieces,turned to dust and vaporized

Nope