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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Tbf FB Bankai Ichigo burnt Yhwach’s arm sooooTbf Quilge was manhandled by Bankai Ichigo
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Bankai Ichigo is op, he might be even stronger than base Aizen and shikai Yama.Tbf Quilge was manhandled by Bankai Ichigo
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Fair enough but for some reason i always thought Ichigo might have used Blut Arterie at that point
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I think bankai Ichigo actually get kinda stronger than his usual self due to awaken Quincy power which is something he never even used on his FB bankai mode Before Yhwach.
however Ichigo also kinda lost almost half of his outfit IIRC against Yhwach, so he was also kinda weakened When Jugram cut his bankai.
however Ichigo also kinda lost almost half of his outfit IIRC against Yhwach, so he was also kinda weakened When Jugram cut his bankai.
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Ooooo that’d be a neat little inclusionFair enough but for some reason i always thought Ichigo might have used Blut Arterie at that point
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Without vollstadig
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Ichigo also manhandled an Ayon absorbed Quilge. Ayon was already strong enough crush Voll Quilge quite badly even with blut vene active.
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Tbf i cant think of anything else to hsve him injure Yhwach when previously Getsuga did nothing, maybe we will see in ep 8?
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Probably episode 7 ngl
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Depends how many chapters they do in ep7, i think they might end it with Ichigo Save the soul Society or Him throwing the Sword
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True true that’d be a good end point, but also at the rate we’re going with like 5-6 chapters an episode we could end it off with Yhwach retreating.
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Oops im a dumbass, we will see it in ep7 i got the chapters confused, Braindead moment from me
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Yhwach implied that Ichigo was heavily weakened, he said "do you expect to defeat me in your current condition?" Or sth in that meaning
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I mean
it was due to the outfit stuff
but I’m sure he used Quincy power after that phrase
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There's no indication for that. I think FB Bankai ichigo is just that strong and mad underrated. Like Ginjo, FB Bankai ichigo is one of those that people refuse to acknowledge they're super strong for no reason
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Yes he used blut vene to defend, however Ichigo already had access to the quincy powers after he escaped the jail, still his condition wasn't good, the one noticeable thing was his durability increase due to blut vene.
I think FB Ichigo is underrated yeah, it's stated that he took the reiatsu of all the captains + Kisuke's group and its implied that his power will be the sum of that in one of the novels or a databook if I'm not mistaken I need to recheck that again ngl.
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I don’t refuse to acknowledge anything, I’m simply evaluating feat objectively, mad underrated is exaggerated, dude in his shikai is inferior to ayon who is inferior to hallibel lol.
I can see him in shikai Yama or Aizen/yama tier with fullbring bankai or things around that. Which is very consistent with his showing If anything.
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It can mostly depend if we say Yama bankai would erase him, but i think miracle should > Yama bankai erasure and still regenerate, so Gerard would just gerard’ him until he wins. If you think the miracle would not bypass Yamamoto erasure probably Gerard would get erased By his bankai.I was thinking now, would Gerard reach a point where he could defeat the old yamma? I don't see the yamma flames working on him because of his resistance to elemental powers, I really wanted to see what his 3 form is capable of
I find weird that the heart of the soul can’t bypass Yama erasure though.
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I doubt Yhwach has one tbh
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Gerard had one and he was part of the Soul King, which makes me think Soul King and son also have one.
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Yhwach and Jugram are unique Quincy, and coincidentally they both didn't show one, so it's likely that they just don't have one
Also, how would Yhwach's Vollstandig even work? They generally make the Schrift itself stronger, but I simply can't imagine The Almighty being stronger...
Also, how would Yhwach's Vollstandig even work? They generally make the Schrift itself stronger, but I simply can't imagine The Almighty being stronger...
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I feel like Yhwach's swap out for a Vollstandig was The Almighty transformation, plus it makes more sense if Yhwach can just use his Quincy powers to the fullest normally rather than need a transformation. Also, it's Yhwach who gives the Sternritter the ability to use Vollstandig iirc, so it'd make sense that he can just use that level of power normally.
Well regarding Uryu, CFYOW makes it seem like Uryu and Ryuken could likely use Vollstandig, so maybe Uryu did use Vollstandig against Jugram but got beaten out of it, or maybe he stayed in base to accumulate damage to use the Antithesis. And Jugram swaps powers with Yhwach at night, so if Yhwach doesn't have/need a Vollstandig, it makes sense that against Uryu at night Jugram wouldn't either. Plus Jugram highkey didn't need to power up to thrash Uryu.
But yeah I feel like the SK and by proxy his child probably don't need transformations to access their powers. Similar to how the final evolution of the Zanpakuto is to become one with it and have access to your full power 24/7. Just a hypothesis tho.
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Probably outdated, I'd have to find the scan, but iirc Liltotto implies Uryu and Ryuken can use the Vollstandig
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Grabs his two piece and makes it into a one piece
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it's real
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Getting Aizen ************* Sosuke this early means additional scene when Yhwach went to see Aizen.
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Ulquiorra is a mid-tier by the TYBW
Stop arguing that he's stronger when the manga, databook, and novels literally say he's not.
I don't want to see this anymore.
Stop arguing that he's stronger when the manga, databook, and novels literally say he's not.
I don't want to see this anymore.
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Reio wishes Ulquiorra could get much higher.
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He said all the powers that existed in HM not from HM. Which is why he back tracks and brings up ulq,and VL
He said that based on the rank given to him it also can argued as retcon as yammy was also above him yet he didn't mention him.
It's based on what aizen put them at not kubo stop it
Already address this grab
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Reio is unironically Bleach's version of speedster.
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Yet you just argued nnoritra being the strongest espada
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