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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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I do not think we are scaling other charachters beside Ichigo in bankai, Yhwach and Aizen to those level, we have them at those level because how Kubo potrayed the final fight with Yhwach's feat with his reiastu and was just them.
So I am against any scaling to TS Ichigo, and the couple of charachters that would scale, the best I can agree is put an "higher". (unless we are not scaling anything to TS Ichigo)
Also, I do not think 2C is fine, I have to think more about that, but It does not reach the requirements for 2C Bleach. the best it can reach is low 2C, but I would see the arguments first.
Regarding Gremmy, even if we accept him creating the galaxy room, it would just be only with his imaginations since Kubo blatantly explained he can create whatever he wants, and it would not scale to any charachters whatsoever.
So I am against any scaling to TS Ichigo, and the couple of charachters that would scale, the best I can agree is put an "higher". (unless we are not scaling anything to TS Ichigo)
Also, I do not think 2C is fine, I have to think more about that, but It does not reach the requirements for 2C Bleach. the best it can reach is low 2C, but I would see the arguments first.
Regarding Gremmy, even if we accept him creating the galaxy room, it would just be only with his imaginations since Kubo blatantly explained he can create whatever he wants, and it would not scale to any charachters whatsoever.
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Just give Gremmy a "Varies" rating and no specific stats.
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Seems kinda lazy ngl, but I digress.
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I agree with this
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Kinda always had the same doubt but wount people that warp reality just not have "superhuman" (or whatever) since stuff like RW etc. Are not really physical stats?
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Unless Gremmy chooses to make himself that strong...Which he tried and he failed
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Was wondering when it would be brought up here, anyhow worst case scenario would be everyone not Prime Soul King losing their 3-A to Low 2-C ratings. However, if the upgrade thread didn't use stabilizing the worlds as the central argument then the ratings should be fine to stay. Don't know personally since I wasn't able to follow it too well.
Edit: If it did, then be prepared to defend that hill.
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Na it was one for supporting evidence
The main argument was the creation and destruction of the cosmology
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Then all is good.
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Na the main argument for their tier was not really them holding everything it was brought as support evidence
The main argument was the creation and destruction of the verse cosmology
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Then why isn't that used in any of their profiles as a justification? If you just read the profiles and have no context on the feats or cosmology, it would seem like they're rated like that for holding it all together.
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Tbh the explanations have been brought up cus they are not the best u can see it on this thread and on the CTR also
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Is not coincidental at all, but it would not even affect Yhwach
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It was sarcasm, there's been basically a site wide revision immediately after every notable Bleach upgrade thus far.
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Regen or do you mean Healing?
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Healing is better since it can be applied to other people
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Even if the sustaining was the main argument, the tiers can’t change since you would essentially have to prove that sustaining something only requires energy that is beyond infinitely smaller than what would be required to create/destroy the cosmology.
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Nah, the inverse would occur.
It would have to be proven that in order to stablize the cosmology you need energy to either create or destroy it.
On VsBattles, at least how it's supposed to work, you assume the least unless proven otherwise.
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Literally no. It’s a 4D structure and would require 4D energy can sustain it. To go with what you are saying, the default assumption would be that the energy within a 2D drawing is enough to sustain the existence of our universe.
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I have no idea where you're reaching with that, but I'm just saying what seems to be the agreement in they very thread Purgy linked. You have to prove that the energy to keep it going, is the same energy it takes to make/destroy it.
Whether or not you agree with it, that's you. But that seems to be staff consensus.
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I am not saying the energy required to make it and sustain it are equal, I am saying that since the cosmology is 4D by nature, to sustain would also require 4D levels of energy. To say you can do it with 3D amounts of energy is what would need to be proven.
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Fax. What I like about this is that it blatantly confirms BtW and Bleach are in the same verse.
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What would even be a potential Southern Branch?
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India or somewhere in Africa I guess
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Valkyries and Einherjar it is then
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This possible plot issue was brought to my attention:
" The Quincies completely eradicated Hollows instead of cleansing them like Shinigami do, and by doing that, Quincies removed those souls from the cycle orb reincarnation. Because of that, they would unbalance the amount of souls between the WoTL and the SS, which as Rukia first explained, would cause the collapse of the universe as a result. This was repeated again at the start of the war arc if memory serves me. Being a threat to the worlds in this manner was the reason why most Quincies were eradicated in the first place.
Why would the Quincies be regarded as such a threat to the balance of the worlds if Reio would passively be balancing them? No matter what the Quincies would do, Reio stabilizing the worlds would prevent any chaos from the Quincies messing with the soul cycle, if that was the case."
" The Quincies completely eradicated Hollows instead of cleansing them like Shinigami do, and by doing that, Quincies removed those souls from the cycle orb reincarnation. Because of that, they would unbalance the amount of souls between the WoTL and the SS, which as Rukia first explained, would cause the collapse of the universe as a result. This was repeated again at the start of the war arc if memory serves me. Being a threat to the worlds in this manner was the reason why most Quincies were eradicated in the first place.
Why would the Quincies be regarded as such a threat to the balance of the worlds if Reio would passively be balancing them? No matter what the Quincies would do, Reio stabilizing the worlds would prevent any chaos from the Quincies messing with the soul cycle, if that was the case."
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Oh that'd would be AMAZING!
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So basically your own take of Magnus Chase?
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Hmmm
Yeah might be too similar now that I think about it (only read the Kan Chronicles as a kid but I heard of Chase.)
Eh, I think I could add enough to make it stand apart. I mean “urban fantasy with Norse elements”. Is the only connection. Assuming I make that instead of one of the 29 other ideas I have.
Yeah might be too similar now that I think about it (only read the Kan Chronicles as a kid but I heard of Chase.)
Eh, I think I could add enough to make it stand apart. I mean “urban fantasy with Norse elements”. Is the only connection. Assuming I make that instead of one of the 29 other ideas I have.
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Because the Reiö doesn’t balance the flow of souls. He balances the worlds. Mayuri restored the balances of souls at the beginning of the final season by killing the same amount of souls in soul society.
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Was that a manga thing or a novel thing?
