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I believe it's from the words of Yhwach in the manga, because iirc the only reason people thought the Soul King stabilized the flow of souls and not the worlds was due to a manga mistranslation.
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Both, the whole balancing souls thing was a mistranslation, the correct one is something like
"The Soul King stabilizes the Soul Society where countless Konpaku flow through."
Might not be word for word, just going from memory.
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That's not what I'm talking about, I was asking about Mayuri killing the same amount of souls in soul society.
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Oh, my bad.
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ohhhhhhhh yeah that was a Manga thing happened in the beginning of the arc, Mayuri went up to Yama and was like "didn't ask for authorization because it would be too slow, we wouldn't have this problem if it weren't for your failures" after mentioning he was correcting the balance.
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It only really effects weakened soul king
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To give my thoughts on this. . .
Isn't a stabilization feat essentially an anti-destruction/indefinite creation feat?
If something would be destroyed if you don't stabilize it, let's say the universe, then you maintaining that universe is you constantly supporting its existence against the natural forces that would destroy it, so that outcome doesn't happen.
I remember someone similar happened in Mike Carey's Lucifer.
God left creation and his mark that is written on every atom begins to fade without him there to renew it, leading to the eventual destruction of all creation. And Michael takes up the mantle to continuously rewrite God's name, renewing creation every moment.
Essentially, he is continuously rebuilding creation, again and again indefinitely, to fight against its destruction.
I feel like all stabilization feats work in a similar way. So it seems logical enough for me to think that they should scale to a series cosmology.
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You should probably put that into the actual thread.
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I've written more on the topic, and I am having some civil discussion with some friends on the topic before I even attempt to put my thoughts and opinions in the cesspool that is a VS Battle wiki Staff Discussion/CRT.
I'd much rather debate a topic in a stabilized environment - if they think I make legitimate points, then maybe I will throw my 2-cents in the ring.
I'd much rather debate a topic in a stabilized environment - if they think I make legitimate points, then maybe I will throw my 2-cents in the ring.
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Is only the weakened soul king maybe effected by the thread posted above? I’m confused over here.
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Yes. It was a supportive feat anyway.
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Also because reio existed before there was even something to stabilize.
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I think we say it is bigger than 13 km based on Gin swinging the full length of his Bankai in a portion of KT and Ichigo just fragments the whole thing or something.
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so the star and the moon are visible but not enough?
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Oh yeah I’ve seen that argument of Yukio can create dimensions with stars in it and Ichigo destroyed the one he and Ginjo were in. Albeit I don’t think there was ever shown a star in that dimension.
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Chad was too much of a CHAD that they had to sideline Chad because of his CHAD POWER
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Yeah Kubo had Chad stall with the sand/stone giants in the end of the final arc because if Chad were to fight Yhwach, Yhwach would off himself out of fear.
I mean let’s be real in universe who’s the most famous of the Karakura peeps? Perhaps worldwide boxer Chad? Coincidence? I think not.
Also either boxers in Bleach are freaks of nature super humans or Chad heavily nerfs himself, mans survived a steel I-beam dropping on his head as a high schooler.
I mean let’s be real in universe who’s the most famous of the Karakura peeps? Perhaps worldwide boxer Chad? Coincidence? I think not.
Also either boxers in Bleach are freaks of nature super humans or Chad heavily nerfs himself, mans survived a steel I-beam dropping on his head as a high schooler.
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Thing is about Yukio's dimensions is that those ones were from his PSP and not actually real, he put them inside the PSP but once he gets te boost from Ichigo now he's constructing actual dimensions.
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Truth truth.
I guess by that facet you could argue that Byakuya’s dimension had a moon reflecting some sort of light implying the existence of a sun. Then you have the main dimension which is supposed to be unbreakable that has a blue sky implying light absorption in the atmosphere (from a sun) and then say a lesser dimension is implied to have a star so the main dimension should be at least on par. If you wanted to argue star dimensions.
Or you could just argue that since Kurosaki/Ginjo’s dimension is the main strongest dimension, it should be harder to destroy than the dimension with the moon. So then just argue that destroying the main dimension is >= destroying the sub-dimension that had a moon. Which would net 3.62E36 joules or Large Planetary.
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Probably, I think it was only inter dimensional before because we didn’t have accepted sizes to put to the realms/Garganta. I could be wrong.
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can i see the scans of gremmy making the galaxy room from the novels
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Some people count the Garganta as a dimensional thing that just has the worlds in it as pocket dimensions and doesn’t scale to size, but it’s debatable
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Isn’t there a quote where it mentions the 5 nobles wanted a bigger world than what was already there? Pretty sure someone posted something like that in the upgrade thread in response to Matt so if it is true, then the cosmology has to be bigger bare minimum. This would also line up with there being multiple 1-3 universal realms since the OG universe can only be definitively placed at baseline universal at a minimum.
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I mean Aura in the raws says the Garganta is infinite so...
Gimme a sec I gotta find the screenshots on my computer.
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Personally think this Gremmy thing is quite a stretch.
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i mean it seems kind of clear cut. would like to see the full page though
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broly vs kenpachi stats equalized thread (obviously not an addable battle but still)
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Maybe one day I’ll give the Gremmy feat the same treatment I gave the God Tiers, but I’m still enjoying universal Bleach while we have it hahahaha.
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Agreed. The point of the feat was him creating vacuum. The "stars" are there as a visual for it.
