EldemadeDityjon
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Shouldn't fullbringers Get limited information type 2 Manipulation?
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Arkenis
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EldemadeDityjon
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Kinda had a thought about them manipulating souls in the things can be argued for information type 2. Because they can alter the shapes of things just like how Tsukishima shown.
Arkenis
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I feel like we'd end up arguing for the verse having that then too since the full bringers just control souls. Look at the fullbring page Ginjo basically says other things have souls too.
EldemadeDityjon
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That's my point but souls and things are different right beside changing the shape and other things by affecting the souls looks deeper than what it looks
Btw I got this idea based on how Tensura has Information type 2. In there Even Souls are considered as information type 2.
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So... NYC CONFIRMED simulcast in hopes to calm everyone's ****. Shame they had to do that. Fans have so little hope Kubo would screw this up for some money. Johnny Young Bush appeared on the official TYBW message VIZ video. That means the Japanese and English dub will be simulcast at the same time. Probably the English version on Disney+ while the Japanese dub exclusively to Japan.
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Wait, so... if we buy the Digital Ticket and Digital Add on we can watch the first Bleach episode on October 6? Sweet! 
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An Bald Mustacheless Yhwach is strongest than SK Yhwach with Almighty.
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Um Yhwach Careca Bigode é mais forte do que SK Yhwach com Todo-Poderoso.
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She is a very powerful reishi user that can manipulate it at will, feel it, and turn into it. Garganta is a void entirely made out of reishi. Infinite Aura confirmed. GG
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We don’t actually consider the Garganta as true infinite (High 3-A). We just use the fact that vsbw allows the use of infinite to describe a realm to be indicative of 3-A.
Also iirc the narrator says it not Aura.
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I see.
wasnt it Aura Monologue,Where she says that she will rot inside the Infinite Garganta?
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I’d have to double check, iirc it was written third person but idk
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That’s interesting, since that seemingly conflicts with a translation I was shown in SAFWY, I’ll look more into that
Cien thinks Roca copying VL ichigo or 2nd release ulquiorra is her best chance at beating him.
Which mean 2nd release ulq>>>>yammy>>>starrk
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That isn't in the novel iirc
Cien thinks Roca copying VL ichigo or 2nd release ulquiorra is her best chance at beating him.
Which mean 2nd release ulq>>>>yammy>>>starrk
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Cien thinks Roca copying VL ichigo or 2nd release ulquiorra is her best chance at beating him.
Which mean 2nd release ulq>>>>yammy>>>starrk
Based
I refuse to believe yammy the strongest espada
Yes I know that what the Manga and Databooks say
But Kubo ****** up with that mf
If anything SE Ulq being the Cero Espada would make so much more sense story wise
Arkenis
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Arkenis
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just a ulq fanboy. Even Ulq said the top four were stronger than him.
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Even in the Raws cein thinks she will likely copy ichigo or ulqs power. Which means he considers their power to be above the other Espada
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Imagine still using that statement like he was actually telling the truth
Next you're gonna tell me Base Aizen>>>Bankai Yamamoto because himself and the databooks state that he is without equal and no one could ever match him
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Manga kinda proves Yamamoto > Aizen. or at least relative.Imagine still using that statement like he was actually telling the truth
Next you're gonna tell me Base Aizen>>>Bankai Yamamoto because himself and the databooks state that he is without equal and no one could ever match him
And why would ulq lie?
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The raws only mention that had Roka copied Ichigo going berserk it would've been problematic. Ulquiorra is never implied to be a threat. In fact, Cien states that only Cien himself in Resurreccion and base Aizen are stronger than Res Yammy, Starrk and Barragan and that nothing else in Hueco Mundo is stronger. Keep in mind that Cien has full intel on R2 Ulquiorra.That’s interesting, since that seemingly conflicts with a translation I was shown in SAFWY, I’ll look more into that
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Same way Manga proves SE Ulq>All Espada not named Yammy
...because the dude clearly was hiding his form? To the point he didn't even tell Aizen about it despite being his most loyal espada and the one Aizen trusted most to get jobs done?
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Did not prove that.
Hiding it = he lied about his power? Make sense my guy.
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Lie about what?
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Him the top espada being above him.
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He also had intel on VL ichigo so your saying starrk,yammy and Barragan are above VL ichigo?
The fact he thought roca would likely copy ulquiorra or vast lorde ichigo means he thinks their the strongest
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What does he gain from lying, plus Ulq doesn't seem to be a character who lies to mess with someone.Imagine still using that statement like he was actually telling the truth
Next you're gonna tell me Base Aizen>>>Bankai Yamamoto because himself and the databooks state that he is without equal and no one could ever match him
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He believes Ulquiorra was telling the truth when he said the top 3 espada are above him
I said he clearly not talking about his SE in that instance as the Manga later disproves this
Basically I am saying
SE Ulq>>>Top 3 Espada>>>Base and Resureccion Ulq
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According to the Espada rankings, there were stronger Espada above him at the time. But that just doesn't take into account his V2 which he hadn't revealed yet, nor Yammy's transformation which hadn't taken place yet.
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Is there a thread for requirements for types of acausality?
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Ulquiorra never makes this distinction, he doesn't say "they're above me except if we include R2", he just says they're above him.
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I just ******* saw She Hulk twerking on my TL
What the **** happened to the MCU?
What the **** happened to the MCU?
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The meteor keeps getting repelled by the cringe is what happens.I just ******* saw She Hulk twerking on my TL
What the **** happened to the MCU?
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He doesn't have to make the distinction, context does it for us.
None of Ulquiorra's statements are false here:
"I'm ranked fourth among the Espada." This is correct. He is ranked No. 4.
"... there are three Espada above me." This is correct. Above No. 4 is No. 3, No. 2 and No. 1.
Nowhere does this imply that he is comparing them in their strongest forms. He is referring just to the Espada ranking.
