BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Luziifero]

Would soul king yhwach apply for acasuality

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Would soul king yhwach apply for acasuality

Sk should have type 4 logically

 

[Reio35]

Would soul king yhwach apply for acasuality

Type 4 because he existed in world with different causality. Type 2 if you can argue the information in the regai arc as canon

 

[KingogKings777]

 

[skippy]

Rank the Bleach Filler Villains by Strength
Some of them are pretty strong w cool abilities

 

[ImmortalDread]

Type 4 because he existed in world with different causality. Type 2 if you can argue the information in the regai arc as canon

scan?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Also, there is immortality 8 on his profile, but no one clarified which source or object or concept?

 

[Reio35]

Also, there is immortality 8 on his profile, but no one clarified which source or object or concept?

Miracles is the concept

 

[ImmortalDread]

Miracles is the concept

Just add it in the profile with a scan, I think vs battles guidelines stated that besides Immortality 8, there should be a scan for that tho and clarification

8: Reliant Immortality: The character gets benefited by 1 or more other types of Immortality as long as a certain being, object, place and/or concept or more may grant them those benefits, losing them otherwise. What exactly a user is reliant over, the benefits given from it, and how the process of the ability operates must be explained. Simply having some weakness that will kill a character when exploited doesn't qualify if it doesn't grant a form of Immortality, and also having other powers that do grant Immortality but are unrelated to that weakness does not count as well. It is discouraged to list this type if it would be redundant due to the same power already being described in another ability of the profile.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Just add it in the profile with a scan, I think vs battles guidelines stated that besides Immortality 8, there should be a scan for that tho and clarification

As long as concept of fear exist Gerald would live

 

[ImmortalDread]

As long as concept of fear exist Gerald would live

You did not understand me, in his profile, it's not mentioned there

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

You did not understand me, in his profile, it's not mentioned there

Oh made a thread but it got ignored

 

[ImmortalDread]

Oh made a thread but it got ignored

Link?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Link?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/bleach-possibly-ability-addition-for-gerald-toshiro-yhwach-and-soul-king.132678/

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Rank the Bleach Filler Villains by Strength
Some of them are pretty strong w cool abilities

Just raw strength? Or hax too?

1. Yushima Oko. Man beat up Hollow Ichigo post Deicide (plot treated Zangetsu’s power separate from Ichigo’s Shinigami powers so this is really impressive), needed Striped Mask Ichigo to beat who scales to casual base Aizen (cough better than the whole Gotei sans Yama cough), can save anyone else’s attacks to throw back out, absorbs all of their energy attacks (should have better absorption than Nozomi who could absorb Yama’s Shikai iirc), Renzan Hajokuri can nuke all of SS and needed the Reigai of every relevant Shinigami not named Yama to stop.
2. Muramasa/Koga Kuchiki. Kind of a weird one cuz he has that one statement that none of the Captains could stop him aside from Yama and Ginrei. Could be because they could defend from Muramasa while the others couldn’t except … Yama later gets Ryujin Jakka taken from him the moment his barrier went down. Man was also responsible for stopping a Shinigami civil war iirc which is wild considering his side had Yama so the fact it even lasted more than a week is crazy. Muramasa let’s him smack Tf outta the rest of the villains at the same time cuz Zan Spirits are great but can’t stop Renzan Hajokuri
3. Amagai Shusuke. Power nulls all the other filler villains with his Bakoto, was gonna run Yama’s fade (no Shikai obviously) but then he got stopped by Hollow Mask Ichigo pre Hueco Mundo. Mid tier Espada at best
4. Kariya Jin. Stopped by SS Bankai Ichigo … nuff said.

Basically it goes in reverse order of their release dates since they all have to fight stronger and stronger Ichigo’s each time a new filler comes out.

 

[ImmortalDread]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/bleach-possibly-ability-addition-for-gerald-toshiro-yhwach-and-soul-king.132678/

I mean, why it is added but not clarified yet?

 

[Deceived3596]

1. Kariya Jin. Stopped by SS Bankai Ichigo … nuff said.

This Jin Kariya slander is not something i'm gonna tolerate.

He was specifically weakened by Ran'Tao, causing him to lose the Jokaisho amp he got and i believe he also lost his ability to absorb Reishi. (which is main power source as a bount, similar to Quincies)

Before that he was dicken on Bankai Ichigo and Bankai Byakuya.

Hell he was slapping up Bankai Ichigo while in base.

He's folding Amagai, his Bakkoto is only useful against Zanpakuto's, neither Messer nor the Jokaisho's are Zanpakuto's.

Idk about the rest.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Y'all remember that statement in the novels about how Aizen during the FKT Arc was only worried about

- Yamamoto ( for his sheer firepower above even his own )

- Kenpachi ( growth rate )


Would this imply he knows about Kenpachi and Unohana's relationship and the whole mental limiters he placed on himself?

I mean he knows a lot of things he shouldn't


- Ichigo's heritage ( though he planned a good portion of it )

- The existence of the Hogyoku itself

- Soul King and the Original Sin of the Soul Society


So it's fair to say at least 90% that he knew of Kenpachi's locked power?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Y'all remember that statement in the novels about how Aizen during the FKT Arc was only worried about

- Yamamoto ( for his sheer firepower above even his own )

- Kenpachi ( growth rate )


Would this imply he knows about Kenpachi and Unohana's relationship and the whole mental limiters he placed on himself?

I mean he knows a lot of things he shouldn't


- Ichigo's heritage ( though he planned a good portion of it )

- The existence of the Hogyoku itself

- Soul King and the Original Sin of the Soul Society


So it's fair to say at least 90% that he knew of Kenpachi's locked power?

Wait, are we allowed to use Novel version or Manga one now? + knowing about power growth from Kenpachi does not mean he is stronger, tho.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Would this imply he knows about Kenpachi and Unohana's relationship and the whole mental limiters he placed on himself?

I'd imagine if he knows of the Reio's past, he probably knows of the Gotei's past, especially considering how he referenced the Gotei's past when he called Yama a monument to the Gotei's foul history.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

I'd imagine if he knows of the Reio's past, he probably knows of the Gotei's past, especially considering how he referenced the Gotei's past when he called Yama a monument to the Gotei's foul history.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Also also Hisoka walking behinds two boys

 

[AnimesFreak2]

You can't convince me Kubo wasn't high when he wrote this chapter and this man's character

Guess those pain meds he was taking when he was ill had some crazy side effects bruh

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Santa?

 

[Deceived3596]

You can't convince me Kubo wasn't high when he wrote this chapter and this man's character

Guess those pain meds he was taking when he was ill had some crazy side effects bruh

Pepe...

The Soloer of Fairy Tail...

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Pepe...

The Soloer of Fairy Tail...

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Pepe kissin y’all’s moms on Christmas Eve

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Wait, are we allowed to use Novel version or Manga one now? + knowing about power growth from Kenpachi does not mean he is stronger, tho.

I am not saying Arrancar Arc Kenny is stronger than Aizen???

Also the novels for Bleach are accepted canon on here

I am just asking a question about Aizen's knowledge on this specific topic

 

[Arcker123]

Go spam nerds

Bleach profile revamp CRT

 

[Arkenis]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/azashiro-vs-leader-of-the-schutzstaffel.138314/

 

[W0NDER3X]

Some spicy stuff from SAFWY that you guys may be interested in. Some of the kanji is taken out from a PNG file with a image-to-text converter, so do keep in mind that it may not be 100% accurate to the original. Some of these are translated with a machine, others - by actual humans:

Azashiro spams hundreds of Ittou Kasou within the Dangai and Kenpachi no sells them (translated with DeepL)

既に更木とシエンの戦いで開かれた現世への『裂け目』は閉じて いたが、その疵痕をこじ開けるかのように、時空の壁を焼き焦が

The tear to this world that had been opened by the battle between Zaraki and Cien had already closed, but as if to pry open the wound, it burned and scorched the walls of space-time.

Don't have the kanji for this one cause it didn't seem that important (translated by DeepL)

Only a small amount of flame leaked from the rift that had reopened, but that was enough to raise the temperature in the vicinity of Karakura Town by almost 10 degrees Celsius.

Azashiro's Ittou Kasou is weaker than Yamamoto's (translated with DeepL)

「刀の形となった火柱が、あらゆる物を焼き尽くす。 - 単発の威力は山本元柳斎が使用した時に及ばぬものの、恵城は 義骸にそれを唱えさせる事で、数百の『一刀火葬』を更木剣八の身 に重ね合わせたのだ。 黒腔に満ちる霊子の乱気流そのものが燃えあがり、刀状の火柱 の周りに炎の竜巻を立ち上らせる。

'A pillar of fire in the form of a sword burns everything. - Although the power of a single shot is not as powerful as the one used by Yamamoto Genryusai, Keijo (mistranslation?) had Yoshikazu (mistranslation?) chant it, causing hundreds of 'Ittou Kasou' to be superimposed on Zaraki Kenpachi's body. The turbulence of the Reishi that filled the Dangai itself flared up, creating a tornado of flame around the sword-shaped pillar of fire.

The energy from Azashiro's Reishi spear and Kenpachi's Zanpakuto clash can bisect the Dangai itself (translated by Arc)

断界そのものを両断するかのような勢いの剣圧同士がぶつかり合い

Mutual colliding sword pressures with an energy that seemed capable of bisecting the very Dangai itself

Azashiro's Senju Kouten Taihou and Kurohitsugi spam can destroy the Dangai's walls and Kenpachi tanks 50+ of them (translated by Arc and a person known as Kemono on other battleboard sites)

Finally, thunderous roar like a subterranean rumbling, overlapping a spell on a spell, completely filling the Dangai.
The chanting should have stopped by now, but no Kido appeared.
It was as if the power was allowed to accumulate in the space until the chanting was completed.
However, in the following moment -- complex Hado and Bakudo mixed together, a torrent of spiritual pressure expanding with a force that was capable of destroying the Dangai’s surrounding walls was commencing.
The eleventh group was then attacked by several hundreds of Kido all at once.
Kido's 90th level "Senju Kouten Taihou" and "Black Coffin" are overlaid on the body of only one person, Kenpachi Zaraki, exceeding fifty.

 

[Arcker123]

Azashiro's Senju Kouten Taihou and Kurohitsugi spam can destroy the Dangai's walls and Kenpachi tanks 50+ of them (translated by Arc and a person known as Kemono on other battleboard sites)

Let me add this to his profile .

A lot of the stuff I knew, but this is still pretty saucy. Thanks for this post.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Some spicy stuff from SAFWY that you guys may be interested in. Some of the kanji is taken out from a PNG file with a image-to-text converter, so do keep in mind that it may not be 100% accurate to the original. Some of these are translated with a machine, others - by actual humans:

Azashiro spams hundreds of Ittou Kasou within the Dangai and Kenpachi no sells them (translated with DeepL)



Don't have the kanji for this one cause it didn't seem that important (translated by DeepL)


Azashiro's Ittou Kasou is weaker than Yamamoto's (translated with DeepL)



The energy from Azashiro's Reishi spear and Kenpachi's Zanpakuto clash can bisect the Dangai itself (translated by Arc)



Azashiro's Senju Kouten Taihou and Kurohitsugi spam can destroy the Dangai's walls and Kenpachi tanks 50+ of them (translated by Arc and a person known as Kemono on other battleboard sites)

Send the scans to my message wall, I have big revisions regarding tiering with SAFWY information, I’m just in the process of compiling all the scans and context atm.

 

[W0NDER3X]

Are y'all hungry for more SAFWY greatness? No worries, you guys will be eating GOOD fr fr with the upcoming SAFWY revisions!

Roca's Immortality

The quintessence of the ability that Szayelaporro gave her is an external storage device. It duplicates her soul and memories, and when something happens to her, it is retrieved from her body and resurrected. As part of his immortal research, Szayelapporo connected himself to her 'threads' and kept his memories constantly stored in her. To be precise, through her body, the stones and quartz trees of Hueco Mundo.

Her information, dispersed in stone, quartz wood and the palace walls, flowed backwards through the threads and recreated her body, her memories and her soul. Over a long period of time, her destroyed body was rebuilt. She was thrown back into the world, unable to comprehend any of it.

Translated with DeepL, but it should give you an idea of what is about to come.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Are y'all hungry for more SAFWY greatness? No worries, you guys will be eating GOOD fr fr with the upcoming SAFWY revisions!

Roca's Immortality


Translated with DeepL, but it should give you an idea of what is about to come.

Immortality type 8?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Immortality type 8?

I don't get it, what is the concept or thing they got for immortality 8? Is it “threads” or “the stones and quartz trees of Hueco Mundo”

 

[Arcker123]

I don't get it, what is the concept or thing they got for immortality 8? Is it “threads” or “the stones and quartz trees of Hueco Mundo”

She is reliant on her threads

 

[ImmortalDread]

She is reliant on her threads

Gotchu

 

[Aernasilver]

Hmm. If Szayelapporo needed to record his memories in case he dies wouldn’t that mean your mind would be affected when you die? So Aizen should get mid-godly regen for getting his whole body erased which would affect his soul and mind?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Hmm. If Szayelapporo needed to record his memories in case he dies wouldn’t that mean your mind would be affected when you die? So Aizen should get mid-godly regen for getting his whole body erased which would affect his soul and mind?

Memories of Nobody also tells us that the mind is intrinsically linked to the soul, meaning that in bleach, destroying the soul destroys the mind as well. Which is supported by what you said.