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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Tokinada done this with Hanataro's shikai, which limits are unknown, especially when used by tokinada's level of reiatsu and it's made clear that all he could do was move the GT slightly off course to not get slaughtered by it.
There is no problem here.
There is no problem here.
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Nothing suggests that SK yhwach is "massively above" CFYOW bankai ginjo as the two never interacted. Also Tokinada was only able to do this by using a hax ability similar to gerard's miracle and also due to absorbing massive amounts of aura's energy via an enhanced version of yumichika's shikai
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A truck (GT) can collide with a car (Tokinada attack), but the car will be completely destroyed on impact, while the truck can be thrown off the track by the impact of the force created by something as weak as a car travelling at a speed equal to or less than that of the truck.
EldemadeDityjon
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Cope nothing else to say. 
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I’m gonna spell out how Toki can redirect the GT without scaling to it at all.
Let’s say I throw a punch straight at Deceived, all the momentum of that punch is heading straight forwards parallel to the motion of the punch. However, if Deceived knocks my punch off course by smacking the side of my arm/fist to the left or right of him (ie perpendicular to the motion of my punch), then he can redirect my punch without having to face the momentum of my punch at all.
Now apply Toki’s redirection/reflection/deflection similarly, and you’ll see he doesn’t need to be anywhere near the GT’s power.
Let’s say I throw a punch straight at Deceived, all the momentum of that punch is heading straight forwards parallel to the motion of the punch. However, if Deceived knocks my punch off course by smacking the side of my arm/fist to the left or right of him (ie perpendicular to the motion of my punch), then he can redirect my punch without having to face the momentum of my punch at all.
Now apply Toki’s redirection/reflection/deflection similarly, and you’ll see he doesn’t need to be anywhere near the GT’s power.
make the thread, watch it get rejected, and come back crying that vsbw is unfair to mask your inability to debateCope nothing else to say.
EldemadeDityjon
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Appeal to popularity
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Translation: I can’t debate so I’ll claim everyone else is biasedAppeal to popularity
EldemadeDityjon
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No one said that. It's nowhere written it was tybw GT also I was giving interpretation based on the feat.
EldemadeDityjon
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Translation: popularity rules. Not facts.Translation: I can’t debate so I’ll claim everyone else is biased
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I got Bleach to universal despite being despised by staff for the longest time and convinced some staff that once disliked me that uni Bleach is legit and some of them find it valid still. I got shit done despite having to argue uphill, quit making excuses, vsbw ain’t the idiot here, you are.
EldemadeDityjon
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What does that have anything to do here. Lol also did I talked about staffs
why are you making things up. Also just so someone doesn't agree with you they are idiots great 
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Nothing I just said was false. You’re the dude who’s complaining that he can’t get anything passed here because of popular bias. I’m telling you that’s not true and it’s simply a skill issue. The biggest dumbass here is you. If your scaling is so superior go get it implemented, if not take your L and go elsewhere.What does that have anything to do here. Lol also did I talked about staffs
EldemadeDityjon
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Irony about popular bias. Yeah sure
i will talk to you when anime drops.
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Naw, you won’t. Results speak for themselves, you produce no results, I produce major results. That fact of the matter remains regardless of how much you bitch and moan.Irony about popular bias. Yeah sure
EldemadeDityjon
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Major results? Yeah popularity
sure sure
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Major results? Yeah popularity
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Perphaps, you didn't understand my example?I thought Apple got it but maybe he doesn’t
Didn't Tokinada's attack slightly alter the Getsuga Tensho trajectory without scaling to it? Yes? Then we are in the same page.
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Ok I thought you were saying Tokinada’s attack shouldn’t have been able to redirect it,
good man
EldemadeDityjon
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If I have free time i will drop a full explanation why Ginjo GT is nowhere near strongest GT of Ichigo.
If you people have free time or not but i am currently busy in IRL.
Until then cope.
If you people have free time or not but i am currently busy in IRL.
Until then cope.
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It better be a CRT, if not it’s irrelevant.
EldemadeDityjon
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My intention is not a bleach downgrade
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WeakMy intention is not a bleach downgrade
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Fr, most people would kill to have such a direct statement made about their favourite character considering how vague/indirect bleach's inverse scaling can get post-timeskip lmao
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Ginjo backstabbed someone else…
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You kinda did. It says Ichigo's strongest GT, and you said it can be interpreted as Ginjo vs Ichigo's fight GT. Why would it be Ginjo vs Ichigo's fight GT when it flat out states his strongest GT which was used against SK Yhwach. This kinda implies that you believe Fullbring GT > TB Ichigo's GT.
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Ikr Bleach never gives statements that direct. Although to be fair I was in the disbelief camp for the longest time as well until I checked my biases and re-evaluated the evidence.
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What type of headass debate is this
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oh gosh
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KT's a OP Goon.
He doesn't understand high-end intellectual debates.
He doesn't understand high-end intellectual debates.
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Ginjo ant ichigo level emotion amped or not guy only has fraction of ichigo's power no amount of training could ever get him ichigo's level. Narrator's do exaggerate sometimes. So im not sold on this idea. I still think he's soul king level as tokinada stated his power was high enough to become soul king.
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"High-end intellectual debates"Translation: I can’t debate so I’ll claim everyone else is biased
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Its so dumb it looped right back around to being a high-end intellectual debate.
