Bro do i need to post manga scan also temperature is less because of difference between reastu level. Manga clearly mentioned the whole flames are Yama reastu itself not jusr fire.
Yeah you're entire premise for Ginjo's GT not being equal to Ichigo's involves saying Tokinada somehow scales to it. So, since we agree that Tokinada doesn't scale to Ginjo, I'll take your concession.
What the heck is TB Ichigo? True Bankai?
Are we supposed to take this comment as a legit question?
Like saying Strongest Getsuga tensho of Ichigo can also FB Ichigo gestuga tensho. Anyway i don't have any problems scaling him to planetary but his Getsuga tensho is nowhere near Ichigo Getsuga tensho. Lmao Toki isn't even near base Aizen level
Still Tokinada is nowhere near base Aizen who deflected Strongest Getsuga tensho which blasted off yhwach. Well yes we are gonna ignore that.
. So base Aizen should be able to brush it off and Yama too.
Tokinada was running away from Ginjo.TB Getsuga tensho was brushed off by Tokinada
Yhwach was literally weaker than these characters i see.
I hope no one tells yhwach he was weakest character who couldn't brush off Ichigo Getsuga tensho. Also let's go by this logic Base Aizen> monster Aizen. Oops Aizen got downgraded by Transcending. Lmao no wonder his attacks were only hill level
Idk but i believe it will be considered as an outlier like galaxy level gremmyAre we supposed to take this comment as a legit question?
I mean it's above planetary.
Anyway Ginjo > Tokinada. But his GT is nowhere near TB GT which killed off yhwach.
Let's break this idiocy down shall we.Like saying Strongest Getsuga tensho of Ichigo can also FB Ichigo gestuga tensho. Anyway i don't have any problems scaling him to planetary but his Getsuga tensho is nowhere near Ichigo Getsuga tensho. Lmao Toki isn't even near base Aizen level
Manga > Novel
Kubo is real author lol.
Damn according to your assumption Getsuga tensho which blasted off yhwach is weaker than monster Aizen
Well by taking yhwach statement into consideration it's hard to tell if he was referring to Dangai or Mugetsu where Mugetsu is a technique.
Helped ≠ written by orginal writer.
. Again Toki doesn't scale to Ginjo that doesn't my concession when i Never made that claim. You only created that so you can strawman my argument. My whole point is Ginjo GT is nowhere near strongest GT of Ichigo. 
Well when ichigo obtained his true Shikai OMZ stated that up to this Point Ichigo was using only a fraction of his power which would inculde mugetsu
Bu....t Gremmy feat is OUTLIER
….. nah. All the lower feats people try to scale him to are the outliers. The only valid Gremmy feat is Galaxy Room.Bu....t Gremmy feat is OUTLIER
you literally contradicted yourselfHelped ≠ written by orginal writer.
Also you are talking something about conceding and all where i never made claim about Tokinada scaling to Ginjo like are you serious?. Can you show me when did I said Toki Scales to Ginjo.
Also Strongest Getsuga tensho of Ichigo isn't weak enough to deflected by likes of Tokinada. Also it's funny how you can agree Gremmy feat is outlier but you can't see Ginjo GT Contradicting with feats. Yeah sure if you think your assumption> feats great. Here you were the one who is strawmaning when i already made it clear Toki doesn't scale to Ginjo.
For the love of God
From the way you talk all i can see is you have even less knowledge on bleach than me. I thought you were the Better bleach scaler in wiki i guess i was wrong. You ignore what you want to ignore and pick up some lines.
Well i only made thread to scale him to God tiers as yhwach was creating something new by merging three realms of reality. So Gremmy feat shouldn't have been outliers. You can say others don't scale to it but yhwach Ichigo and Aizen should scale to that.
What contradiction?you literally contradicted yourself
"Also Strongest Getsuga tensho of Ichigo isn't weak enough to deflected by likes of Tokinada."
"Again Toki doesn't scale to Ginjo that doesn't my concession when i Never made that claim"
just sounds like you're arguing from incredulity and pronouncing your headcannon above cfyow's scaling,
. Can you show me when did I said the are relative?
you said Ichigo strongest Gt isn't weak enough to be reflected by tokinada implying that because tokinada deflected it he scales to it which is obviously not the case as cfyow literally says it would kill him if it hit him.What contradiction?
My only point is Ginjo doesn't scale to Ichigo
But feats says otherwise
You can fire a Bullet and kill someone that doesn't make the bullet nuclear bomb level.
see? straight up incredulity. It was his STRONGEST gt and obviously fullbringer arc Ichigo isn't his STRONGEST form. Ginjo gt scales to tb gt now cope.
Pretty much its can be interpreted as Ginjo vs Ichigo fight Getsuga tensho
as the feat here done is too weak to compare it to strongest attack that killed off yhwach. Ginjo and Ichigo were exchanging GTS when they fought. Also Ginjo got smoked by Ichigo pretty easily when he got serious and released FB Bankai.
Yes but my point is even deflection shouldn't be possible by a weak guy like Tokinada. Like Strongest GT killed off yhwach strongest character who scales massively above everyone.
Literal argument from incredulity my guy, why shouldn't it be possible for Tokinada to redirect Ginjo's GT? and actually make a argument this time, instead of using fallacious argumentation based off of personal feelings.
Redirecting an attack doesn't require you to be equal or even comparable to that attack? like Arc explained this to you before and you completely misunderstood what he was saying, redirection is using the momentum of an attack against itself, which is what Tokinada did against the GT from Ginjo.
Pretty much its can be interpreted as Ginjo vs Ichigo fight Getsuga tensho
Strenght doesn't matter. GT isn't a beam struggle Kamehameha.
Pretty much its can be interpreted as Ginjo vs Ichigo fight Getsuga tensho
