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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Arc7Kuroi said:
Like I can lowball them further.
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Lowest I can go is tier 6

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Everything is canon besides these things.
  1. Diamond dust rebellion
  2. Hell verse
  3. Fade to black

Can’t Fear Your World is essentially stated to be canon in interviews amongst other obvious things. Kubo also worked closely with Narita writing it.

Spirits Are Forever With You is a canon because all that happened. Certain things are referenced in CFYOW such as the death of that Kenpachi with the bankai that can be used once a year and that he was a friend of Shunsui. And some other things I can’t remember.

Memories of Nobody is canon because this all happened in the manga. Ichigo himself also mentions that he went to the valley of scream before. And the end of the chapter Kubo wrote a note that you should watch the movie in order to understand and see what he did there and what it is.

We do not always love you is canon because it’s about the events leading up to Rukia’s wedding. And some other details regarding characters relationships post-war. It happens after CFYOW and before the time skip chapter in the manga.
 
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BleachHollow said:
I tried everything i ever knew about Bleach to hope and save the revision. But i guess it will go through since I'm not good at debating. R.I.P Universal Bleach 2021-2021
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Guess only new members are desperately trying to keep the rating for Bleach and old members played tug of war with wiki before and lost. Can't be helped.
 
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
Everything is canon besides these things.
  1. Diamond dust rebellion
  2. Hell verse
  3. Fade to black
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does the wiki have a given reason for this
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
Can’t Fear Your World is essentially stated to be canon in interviews amongst other obvious things. Kubo also worked closely with Narita writing it.
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So the wording for cfyows interviews is the reason. And the fact that kubo worked on it.
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
Spirits Are Forever With You is a canon because all that happened. Certain things are referenced in CFYOW such as the death of that Kenpachi with the bankai that can be used once a year and that he was a friend of Shunsui. And some other things I can’t remember.
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So references to characters and events that only appear in it

Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
Memories of Nobody is canon because this all happened in the manga. Ichigo himself also mentions that he went to the valley of scream before. And the end of the chapter Kubo wrote a note that you should watch the movie in order to understand and see what he did there and what it is.
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So manga appearance and advertisement

the reason I’m asking it in this way is because I’m thinking of making a thread for the anime and movies being cannon to the manga. More info for it being cannon is found by the day 👌
 
Hell verse was probably intended to be canon at 1st. If I recall it even had a chapter in the manga or something. But it became skewed compared to whatever vision Kubo had for it at 1st.

As for the other 2 movies, I don’t remember much besides that they don’t fit the timeline and nothing that took place within them were ever mentioned again.

we have some profiles for movie characters and filler, but they’ve mostly been neglected the past 2 years.
 
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
Hell verse was probably intended to be canon at 1st. If I recall it even had a chapter in the manga or something. But it became skewed compared to whatever vision Kubo had for it at 1st.

As for the other 2 movies, I don’t remember much besides that they don’t fit the timeline and nothing that took place within them were ever mentioned again.

we have some profiles for movie characters and filler, but they’ve mostly been neglected the past 2 years.
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Hell verse fits into the regai arc, hell verse is criminally misunderstood because of people not fully reading and understanding the timeline.

Diamond dust has a tie in chapter and in the kubo talking section of the manga he says it’s a different perspective

Kubo says he thinks dark rukia has the closest connection to the manga and he thought of the plot.

we know from interviews if kubo doesn’t think it’ll fit into the story of bleach it’ll be rejected
 
BleachHollow said:
I tried everything i ever knew about Bleach to hope and save the revision. But i guess it will go through since I'm not good at debating. R.I.P Universal Bleach 2021-2021
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Nahh i don't anything was debunked. Akm just made up his own theories and interpretation about the cosmology and everyone just went with it.

But it doesn't matter at this point of site their still universal+
 
kinda telling when some comments were ignored but if the japanese kanji denotes them as planets theres really not much to argue.
 
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
Hell verse was probably intended to be canon at 1st. If I recall it even had a chapter in the manga or something. But it became skewed compared to whatever vision Kubo had for it at 1st.

As for the other 2 movies, I don’t remember much besides that they don’t fit the timeline and nothing that took place within them were ever mentioned again.

we have some profiles for movie characters and filler, but they’ve mostly been neglected the past 2 years.
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Imagine if Kubo brings that one shot chapter back and introduces the Hellverse villains in canon? Similar to Broly in DBS. 🤣
 
So it's just Ichigo and Aizen being nerfed right? I don't think it's fair to nerf Yhwach since he was going to undo what the SK did with raw power instead of a hax
 
T2KBaka said:
So it's just Ichigo and Aizen being nerfed right? I don't think it's fair to nerf Yhwach since he was going to undo what the SK did with raw power instead of a hax
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The funny thing is that this whole revision is based upon assumptions by staff and how they interpret their one provided scan.
And Yhwach is also Planetary, he is Universal with Environmental Destruction which I don't see how it matters.
 
I mean as long as Yhwach is still Uni, it's fine for now. I find the Ichigo and Aizen nerfs pretty fair, but not Yhwach or SK, if they were just planetary
 
CalmHill said:
Hell verse fits into the regai arc, hell verse is criminally misunderstood because of people not fully reading and understanding the timeline.

Diamond dust has a tie in chapter and in the kubo talking section of the manga he says it’s a different perspective

Kubo says he thinks dark rukia has the closest connection to the manga and he thought of the plot.

we know from interviews if kubo doesn’t think it’ll fit into the story of bleach it’ll be rejected
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Regai arc is non cannon so hellverse fitting there does not hold weight

Is about a character, that does not make it canon, there is also no timeline

That would not make it canon

"Fit" as in the theme of the verse, not "fit" as into the timeline
 
If we take orihime comment as Ichigo before HoS blitzing her, He would've lowkey clapped Yhwach no almighty

does anyone have the thread, where was it accepted that gremmy's space room was portal creation?
 
So pretty much now that Arc voted on banning Bleach God Tier revisions, I guess we have to cope for a very long time with Ichigo and Yhwach being Planetary. All my hope now is on the popularity of Bleach after the return of the anime and how many people it will bring to the wiki. Maybe in 2023 we can see Uni Bleach again.
 
AppleLord said:
At the end of the day, I don’t care what Bleach characters are rated in VSBW. When you show the characters profiles to the people outside VSBW, they laugh and ignore it anyway. I preferred to use the actual source.
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This is facts. I tried to reason with wiki but seems they are set on placing bleach Planetary no matter what
 
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