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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

am i reading this wrong? looks like he has the solid 3-A rating then possibly low 2-C

Yhwach 5-A, 3-A, possibly Low 2-C via Environmental Destruction
 
Deceived said:
It's worse since its not Combat Applicable to anything outside of the Bleachverse.
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Yea, even more worse is that it means that when Soul Society and the other Realms are used they refer only to Planets, so just by destroying the Soul Society planet everything on the Bleach cosmology would fall. Even though this is completely different from what Yhwach wanted to do. But vsbwiki likes to do shit like this
 
Quit bitching guys and forget about it. No point bothering with this stuff anymore unless Kubo gives us a new guidebook or Hell Arc expands on it.
 
BleachHollow said:
Yea, even more worse is that it means that when Soul Society and the other Realms are used they refer only to Planets, so just by destroying the Soul Society planet everything on the Bleach cosmology would fall. Even though this is completely different from what Yhwach wanted to do. But vsbwiki likes to do shit like this
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Sometimes I wonder how big the so-called planets are..

Just from the distance from the sereitei to the Palace SK -> 9 hours shunpo
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Quit bitching guys and forget about it. No point bothering with this stuff anymore unless Kubo gives us a new guidebook or Hell Arc expands on it.
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it’s just the same old chain reaction interpretation.
Had he not defeated Yhwach, the “boundaries between the three worlds would have disappeared and we would have returned to a universe in which there would be no cycling of konpaku, wouldn’t we? Such an action would have reduced the Soul Society’s history to naught. I would like to make this a universe where he receives commendation befitting his achievement of preventing that occurrence.”



Excerpt From

Bleach: Can’t Fear Your Own World, Vol. 3

Tite Kubo, Ryohgo Narita

This material may be protected by copyright.”
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Alas, whatever Kubo releases,might not even help.
If its related to Hell and its Size-doesnt change much.
Maybe if he releases a Databook explaining the Cosmology a bit more, or even answers some questions in his Klub Kubo.
-Novel is unlikely,unless it goes back maybe to the time of the Old Gotei 13 or Yhwach first invasion🤷‍♂️
 
They put a value on the “nights sky” and he also has a technique that condensed 100 nights into an attack. Not sure if it’s verse specific though.

Edit - NVM it’s probably gonna get axed.
 
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I disagree.Yhwach was nuking all dimensions with his own power which he stated on panel. Yet plp still have the idea it's a chain reaction. When Tokinada says he's removing the boundaries all that means is their will be no border between worlds or dimensional boundary and everything will be like the old universe.It is not saying yhwach isn't destroying them with his power. A similar statement was stated when the soul king died which also just means their will no dimensional boundaries between worlds and everything will be one universe. It doesn't take away from the fact the soul kings power alone stabilizes everything. Which is stated many times in the novels.

The very fact yhwach went to ss in the middle of the destruction and would survive means he is in complete control of the destruction and it's not a chain reaction. If it were a chain reaction he himself would likely die as well. Yhwach also implies the new soul palace he made would also be intact. This is consistent with the narrative. Tokinada says the soul king can destroy and manipulate the world as they wish,his power functions like a pillar or fuel for the worlds.

The three realms being only planets is utter nonsense. Ichibei clearly says all of creation/the universes were these 3 realms not one large planet. The novels gave use a clear analogy their not planets. Their only like planets to the gargnata Because it contains these worlds and is much bigger. They also have a dimensional boundary called the dangai. Clearly the narrative is saying their dimensions

Let's the assume the original world was 3 planets in one. To avoid the chaos on this world why not move to another planet? Soul King and many other beings im sure had the means to move to other planets. Yhwach,aizen and tokinada didn't like how things were they could have just easily moved to another planet far away from the chaos were their isn't a concept of death.
 
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Reio35 said:
I disagree.Yhwach was nuking all dimensions with his own power which he stated on panel. Yet plp still have the idea it's a chain reaction. When Tokinada says he's removing the boundaries all that means is their will be no border between worlds or dimensional boundary and everything will be like the old universe.It is not saying yhwach isn't destroying them with his power. A similar statement was stated when the soul king died which also just means their will no dimensional boundaries between worlds and everything will be one universe. It doesn't take away from the fact the soul kings power alone stabilizes everything. Which is stated many times in the novels.

The very fact yhwach went to ss in the middle of the destruction and would survive means he is in complete control of the destruction and it's not a chain reaction. If it were a chain reaction he himself would likely die as well. Yhwach also implies the new soul palace he made would also be intact. This is consistent with the narrative. Tokinada says the soul king can destroy and manipulate the world as they wish,his power functions like a pillar or fuel for the worlds.

The three realms being only planets is utter nonsense. Ichibei clearly says all of creation/the universes were these 3 realms not one large planet. The novels gave use a clear analogy their not planets. Their only like planets to the gargnata Because it contains these worlds and is much bigger. They also have a dimensional boundary called the dangai. Clearly the narrative is saying their dimensions

Let's the assume the original world was 3 planets in one. To avoid the chaos on this world why not move to another planet? Soul King and many other beings im sure had the means to move to other planets. Yhwach,aizen and tokinada didn't like how things were they could have just easily moved to another planet far away from the chaos were their isn't a concept of death.
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Yo please give me your Discord. I got some scans and explanations for other things.
 
Reio35 said:
I disagree.Yhwach was nuking all dimensions with his own power which he stated on panel. Yet plp still have the idea it's a chain reaction. When Tokinada says he's removing the boundaries all that means is their will be no border between worlds or dimensional boundary and everything will be like the old universe.It is not saying yhwach isn't destroying them with his power. A similar statement was stated when the soul king died which also just means their will no dimensional boundaries between worlds and everything will be one universe. It doesn't take away from the fact the soul kings power alone stabilizes everything. Which is stated many times in the novels.

The very fact yhwach went to ss in the middle of the destruction and would survive means he is in complete control of the destruction and it's not a chain reaction. If it were a chain reaction he himself would likely die as well. Yhwach also implies the new soul palace he made would also be intact. This is consistent with the narrative. Tokinada says the soul king can destroy and manipulate the world as they wish,his power functions like a pillar or fuel for the worlds.

The three realms being only planets is utter nonsense. Ichibei clearly says all of creation/the universes were these 3 realms not one large planet. The novels gave use a clear analogy their not planets. Their only like planets to the gargnata Because it contains these worlds and is much bigger. They also have a dimensional boundary called the dangai. Clearly the narrative is saying their dimensions

Let's the assume the original world was 3 planets in one. To avoid the chaos on this world why not move to another planet? Soul King and many other beings im sure had the means to move to other planets. .hwach,aizen and tokinada didn't like how things were they could have just easily moved to another planet far away from the chaos were their isn't a concept of death.
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End Sketches of what was happening to the Universe should have been allowed, atleast as Supporting evidence or even take into consideration that the Bleach verse is based on Buddhism.
 
skippy said:
End Sketches of what was happening to the Universe should have been allowed, atleast as Supporting evidence or even take into consideration that the Bleach verse is based on Buddhism.
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Gremmy having knowledge of outer space. He had the knowledge of universe. How would he has knowledge of universe If the realms are not universal?
 
skippy said:
End Sketches of what was happening to the Universe should have been allowed, atleast as Supporting evidence or even take into consideration that the Bleach verse is based on Buddhism.
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Yeah their consist with current events

Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Gremmy having knowledge of outer space. He had the knowledge of universe. How would he has knowledge of universe If the realms are not universal?
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The worlds are only accept to be in different universes/dimensions. Not that they are.
 
Ssr4vegito said:
If Yhwach can have 3A rating with ED then i don't see why Gremmy can't have 3C with Creation unless it was already accepted as BFR
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Its not a BFR and I will try to drop a thread about it. Even though I am 200% sure wiki staff will reject it still I will give it a last push.
 
BFR is fine, kenpachi had to cut space to free himself, portal creation is just the cope for outlier.
 
BFR looks more like a Nerf to me. Gremmy need to multiply his power by 6X to create a portal? It sounds kind of dumb, especially in a world where the characters use BFR as casually as in Bleach. Also, hasn't it been said in previous posts that the BFR argument was denied in the novel?
 
When kenpachi cutt the space he ended up back in the ss which means gremmy made a pocket dimension in the ss similar to when ulq broke out a sealed dimension and end up back in LN
 
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