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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Uryu is a Fullbringer Kubo-f0reshadowing-theory.

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I've been calling this for years, Uryu is part Fullbringer.

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Ryuken says Uryu fits in the same category as a Human Fullbringer.

Here we see that Ryuken's mother was attack in the leg by a hollow similar to Masaki.

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Uryu could be a second-third generation Fullbringer like Aura Michibane. A wonderful power-up ready to happen in the Hell Arc to keep up with the next enemies in the series. Some Fullbringers awaken their fullbring later in adulthood we know this from the butler-hulk guy. Maybe Uryu's Quincy cross given to him by his grandpa will become his Fullbring? Explains why Ryuken, and Uryu escaped Auswhalen.
 
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I was told to ask here about this but, I need a little help with a CRT. No it's not 2-C Bleach or MFTL+ Bleach, it's something that has been urking my mind forever. I want to make a CRT involving Ichigo's intelligence. I believe both his intelligence normally and in combat should be upgraded to the next tier up (I don't wanna say them because that would cause more discourse), and I have a draft for it, but I need some help with cleaning things up and also some insight on how to appease the CRT gods. I made this profile for the reason of upgrading Ichigo's Intelligence section because of the old CRT being from 2 years ago and being poorly made and discussed.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
I was told to ask here about this but, I need a little help with a CRT. No it's not 2-C Bleach or MFTL+ Bleach, it's something that has been urking my mind forever. I want to make a CRT involving Ichigo's intelligence. I believe both his intelligence normally and in combat should be upgraded to the next tier up (I don't wanna say them because that would cause more discourse), and I have a draft for it, but I need some help with cleaning things up and also some insight on how to appease the CRT gods. I made this profile for the reason of upgrading Ichigo's Intelligence section because of the old CRT being from 2 years ago and being poorly made and discussed.
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post the draft here, we can help
 
Malekith said:
post the draft here, we can help
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I'll need to attach links to my scans and shorten a few things, but I'll have it up here some time next week (maybe even this weekend). Better yet tmrw I'll have the draft for upgrading his general intellingence from Above Average to Gifted. I'm hella tired rn so I'll wait later
 
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Anywho As I promised, here's the draft (Note: Currently my scans are scattered across my phone and computer so for the sake of time I will include them later)



First, why Ichigo is above average currently:



Ichigo is ranked above average because of the fact that he is a straight A student and is in the top 30 of his school (Above Average feat) however, there is a lot more to unpack about this



1. His shinigami duties



Ichigo as we've seen leaves class for his shinigami work almost all the time and the teachers don't really put an effort to be concerned about him, meaning his grades are high enough not to warrant them being suspicious when he leaves. Ichigo also had to deal with Zangetsu interfering with his life along with Aizen kidnapping Orihime and despite that along with losing Zangetsu, he was able to remain above the average in the fullbringer arc. Ichigo also had to work with having Shinigami interfering with his life as well such as multiple captains and lieutenants attending his school and living in his house, having to deal with their shenanigans.



Now that I have shown why his school feat is not just above average due to him dealing with shinigami work and how the teachers are not concerned, this is where it really gets interesting: Knowledge



Ichigo is very knowledgable about the Bleach world, moreso than your average shinigami or human. He knows about the different races and species that exist from being taught by Urahara, The Vizards, Ichibei, and many others. He knows about the true workings of the universe through what goes on in the Royal Palace, something that most Captains don't know. He also knows many of their techniques including high-level ones as well and can remember them even after almost 2 years of only witnessing it once (Grimmjow's Gran Rey Cero, he only saw a GRC once in the pre-timeskip of Bleach and performed it Vs Yhwach in the TYBW in conjunction with Getsuga Tenshou).

His deduction when it comes to his soul is incredible as he was able to figure out that his Bankai's spirtual pressure is linked to his Shihakusho and he found out through being healed by Isane when she said that Reiatsu heals longer and confirmed that when he was healed by Orihime, his body was healed, but not his Shihakusho. He was also able to find the equilibrium within himself and created a plan to unlock HoS to mix together his Hollow and Quincy powers.

There's a bunch of Emotional stuff too, but I think I will save that for the combat section
 
I just messaged Nerd about my CRT. Hopefully this is non-controversial enough to warrant an easy agreement with staff (although Genius in combat will definitely be a challenge)
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Can't forget Hikone, although the fanbase loves doing that when it comes to scaling Kenpachi. Also my GOAT Kugoat Himjo
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I meant Ichigo ain't the only "hybrid" in the series.

Yhwach would probably be a Hybrid type 5 or higher since basically he absorbs the souls and essence of everyone that dies in combat plus he absorbed the Soul King as well.

Hybrid 4 races mix: Ichigo (Shinigami-Hollow-Quincy-Fullbringer), Hikone (Shinigami-Hollow-Quincy-Fullbringer)

Hybrid 3 races mix: Ginjo (Shinigami-Hollow-Fullbringer), Soul King (Shinigami-Quincy-Fullbringer)

Hybrid 2 races mix: Ebern (Hollow-Quincy), Shinji (Shinigami-Hollow), Rose (Shinigami-Hollow), Hiyori (Shinigami-Hollow), Hachi (Shinigami-Hollow), Lisa (Shinigami-Hollow), Kensei (Shinigami-Hollow), Love (Shinigami-Hollow), Mashiro (Shinigami-Hollow)

Tell me if I forgot someone.
 
The change in how Yhwach gets out of the cage oreshadows Uryu's schrift and it explains why Yhwach never uses Yamamoto's bankai. I think the medallion that was used to switch places with yhwach had Yama's bankai in and shows how Yhwach throws it away like an insignificant peace of art. Unless, Uryu used Antithesis to swaps Medallion's with Yhwach and now owns Zanka No Tachi as we saw in that one part that Uryu's medallion had some sort of blut like when it activated in his eyes foreshadowing the use of Antithesis on the medallion.
 
So totally random question, but which characters can resist reiatsu crush? I'm having a bit of trouble understanding how high it scales compared to other verses. Like shouldn't characters with resistance to soul manipulation be able to engage in battles with soul reapers? I get that hollows have type 2 corruption, but that's only hollows as far as I'm aware. Cuz making vs battles with Bleach appears impossible.
 
CiscoTheSoto said:
So totally random question, but which characters can resist reiatsu crush? I'm having a bit of trouble understanding how high it scales compared to other verses. Like shouldn't characters with resistance to soul manipulation be able to engage in battles with soul reapers? I get that hollows have type 2 corruption, but that's only hollows as far as I'm aware. Cuz making vs battles with Bleach appears impossible.
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Humans like Fullbringers, Orihime and Chad have Hollow Reiatsu. Typically, in versus matches we ignore that the other character can't do that so the fight even happenes or there would be no point.
 
AppleLord said:
I meant Ichigo ain't the only "hybrid" in the series.

Yhwach would probably be a Hybrid type 5 or higher since basically he absorbs the souls and essence of everyone that dies in combat plus he absorbed the Soul King as well.

Hybrid 4 races mix: Ichigo (Shinigami-Hollow-Quincy-Fullbringer), Hikone (Shinigami-Hollow-Quincy-Fullbringer)

Hybrid 3 races mix: Ginjo (Shinigami-Hollow-Fullbringer), Soul King (Shinigami-Quincy-Fullbringer)

Hybrid 2 races mix: Ebern (Hollow-Quincy), Shinji (Shinigami-Hollow), Rose (Shinigami-Hollow), Hiyori (Shinigami-Hollow), Hachi (Shinigami-Hollow), Lisa (Shinigami-Hollow), Kensei (Shinigami-Hollow), Love (Shinigami-Hollow), Mashiro (Shinigami-Hollow)

Tell me if I forgot someone.
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🤓*Human, Fullbringer is not a race.
 
AppleLord said:
I meant Ichigo ain't the only "hybrid" in the series.

Yhwach would probably be a Hybrid type 5 or higher since basically he absorbs the souls and essence of everyone that dies in combat plus he absorbed the Soul King as well.

Hybrid 4 races mix: Ichigo (Shinigami-Hollow-Quincy-Fullbringer), Hikone (Shinigami-Hollow-Quincy-Fullbringer)

Hybrid 3 races mix: Ginjo (Shinigami-Hollow-Fullbringer), Soul King (Shinigami-Quincy-Fullbringer)

Hybrid 2 races mix: Ebern (Hollow-Quincy), Shinji (Shinigami-Hollow), Rose (Shinigami-Hollow), Hiyori (Shinigami-Hollow), Hachi (Shinigami-Hollow), Lisa (Shinigami-Hollow), Kensei (Shinigami-Hollow), Love (Shinigami-Hollow), Mashiro (Shinigami-Hollow)

Tell me if I forgot someone.
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Ebern doesn't have quincy power as far as I know, he's just a hollow that works for the Quincy. Him making his power be quincy themed doesn't mean he has quincy power

AppleLord said:
Shinji (Shinigami-Hollow), Rose (Shinigami-Hollow), Hiyori (Shinigami-Hollow), Hachi (Shinigami-Hollow), Lisa (Shinigami-Hollow), Kensei (Shinigami-Hollow), Love (Shinigami-Hollow), Mashiro (Shinigami-Hollow)
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whoa what a mind blowing discovery dude

AppleLord said:
Hybrid 4 races mix: Ichigo (Shinigami-Hollow-Quincy-Fullbringer), Hikone (Shinigami-Hollow-Quincy-Fullbringer)
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To be fair, Ichigo accessed the Vizard aspect for some time, which Hikone never had, though he doesn't use it anymore because it was always an improper addition. Not to say that his hollowification is weaker but his was fundamentally different.
 
Excellence616 said:
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Wait a second, let me cook about this.


In the flashback in Cour 2 with Young Yhwach vs Ichibei, he said he saw his father's death with The Almighty, he even said he was glad he lost his eyes because he would never see it again. Ichigo saw these visions in a similar fashion in the Irazusando. Does this mean Ichigo is being trained to wield The Almighty?
 
I mean it’s rather explicit that Ichigo was being tested to see if he is a worthy vessel to replace the Soul King. Given it’s revealed in CFYOW that Ichibe had planned on using Ichigo as the new SK in the event that they had no other replacement. So I don’t believe Ichigo was being trained explicitly for the purpose of using the Almighty, rather taking in some of the Soul King’s reiatsu in that moment just so happened to grant Ichigo that glimpse with the Almighty.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
I mean it’s rather explicit that Ichigo was being tested to see if he is a worthy vessel to replace the Soul King. Given it’s revealed in CFYOW that Ichibe had planned on using Ichigo as the new SK in the event that they had no other replacement. So I don’t believe Ichigo was being trained explicitly for the purpose of using the Almighty, rather taking in some of the Soul King’s reiatsu in that moment just so happened to grant Ichigo that glimpse with the Almighty.
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I know he was trained to be a vessel as stated in CFYOW, but considering that Ichigo was said in the manga by Yhwach to have somewhat similar eyes (that is if memory serves me), it could mean something bigger
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
Ebern doesn't have quincy power as far as I know, he's just a hollow that works for the Quincy. Him making his power be quincy themed doesn't mean he has quincy power


whoa what a mind blowing discovery dude


To be fair, Ichigo accessed the Vizard aspect for some time, which Hikone never had, though he doesn't use it anymore because it was always an improper addition. Not to say that his hollowification is weaker but his was fundamentally different.
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This list is based on race powers. If we follow your genius deduction of “Ebern” then we have to remove “Shinigami” from every character since is not even a “race” but souls with a title given when joining the Gotei 13. Ebern is a hollow with the ability to use Quincy powers and weapons.
 
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