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Bruh, not fast enoughMFTL, MFTL+, MFTL+, MFTL++, Infinite, Infinite, Immeasurable (speed only)
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Bruh, not fast enoughMFTL, MFTL+, MFTL+, MFTL++, Infinite, Infinite, Immeasurable (speed only)
What do yall think are the optimal speed and AP tiers for Bleach characters per arc (Substitute, SS, Arrancar, SAFWY, Fullbring, TYBW, CFYOW)?
My take was kinda legit, I just miss the Cero scalingeveryone is giving meme takes except for Blues
Blues I’d say your speed meta is definitely the high end, but 2-C S0 is
I have this same thought. Plus to support that: Each realm has it's own time cycle, meaning it would count for a space time continuum, since it is an infinite space, operating on it's own time.Real answer for a second
I honestly do believe FP S0 members are probably Low Multi given the way Senjumaru says they have to be careful to not exert themselves even more than just the minimum when released implies they will destroy or at the very least heavily damage all 3 worlds
And if you believe each realm to be a Low 2-C realm ofc
Smt and Nasuverse supporters watching their favorite character get stomped by 1-A layered soul crush:tfw when Kubo has Cour 3 and 4 confirm that the Garganta is like a 1-A realm beyond dimensions void of time or space
Uh, I honestly have no idea. This will probably just be spit balling. I also could go into specifics, but I won't because I'm lazy and no one else is doing it either.What do yall think are the optimal speed and AP tiers for Bleach characters per arc (Substitute, SS, Arrancar, SAFWY, Fullbring, TYBW, CFYOW)?
Why is that?I don't want tier 2 or tier 1 and everyone probably knows why.
Smt and Nasuverse supporters watching their favorite character get stomped by 1-A layered soul crush:
It's just kind of funny. Honestly, if we get more clarification on a few feats, it might (keyword, might) be legitimate.Y’all really like the immeasurable speed
Let's be real here for a second...if Kubo keeps doing what he's doing at this rate...Bleach is almost no doubt gonna be Tier 2 at leastI don't want tier 2 or tier 1 and everyone probably knows why.
I like funny numbers,that's all.Why is that?
As for speed i don't really care that much,maybe for the Strongest non god tiers FTL or FTL+, MFTL to MFTL+ for god tiers only and that's it.
Anything higher is just silly ngl.
I pretty much share the same opinions for APUh, I honestly have no idea. This will probably just be spit balling. I also could go into specifics, but I won't because I'm lazy and no one else is doing it either.
Substitute Soul Reaper arc: Maybe 7-C and hypersonic (I honestly don't remember the feats from the Substitute Soul Reaper arc very well).
Soul Society arc: 6-C(Low 2-C because of the Sokyoku being stated to destroy the Soul Society)and hypersonic to FTL (genuinely, the only speed feat I remember from that arc is Uryu out-speeding his own shadow).
Arrancar arc: High 6-A (I want to say 5-B, but I don't know why) and maybe MHS+ to FTL (actually, when does Memories of Nobody take place,whenever that happens 2-C and MFTL+/Infinite/Immeasurable for everyone), with Post- Dangai Ichigo and Monster Aizen being 2-C and MFTL+ (maybe higher).
Bleach: Spirits are Forever with You: I haven't read Spirits are Forever with You so I genuinely don't know, vaguely higher than the Arrancar arc I guess (Low 2-C/2-C for Kenpachi and Azashiro nearly destroying the Dangai, which apparently didn't happen).
Fullbring arc: Vaguely around Bleach: Spirits are Forever with You, I guess, with some characters being higher and others lower(and Ichigo is 2-C with immeasurable speed because regaining his Soul Reaper powers put him on a higher level than his Post-Dangai/Mugetsu form).
Thousand-Year Blood War arc: Vaguely higher AP than the Fullbring arc for most characters with MFTL speed for scaling to Liltotto dodging Auswahlen (hm... though several of these characters might have scaling to Gremmy or people who scale to him), 3-B and MFTL for people who scale to and above Gremmy, 2-C AP and MFTL/Infinite/Immeasurable speed for anyone scaling to and above Squad 0's true strength.
Bleach: Can't Fear Your Own World: Vaguely similar to the Thousand-Year Blood War arc (some might be higher, some might be a bit lower thanks to the Stern Ritter losing access to their Voll Stern Dich's), 2-C and MFTL/Infinite/Immeasurable speed for Kenpachi, Hikone, and Ikomikidomoe after absorbing pieces of the Soul King from Hikone.
Ah, cool.I pretty much share the same opinions for AP
That's fair. I was mostly going off of Liltotto dodging Auswahlen as the main MFTL feat that the non-god tiers scale to.I'm not knowledgeable on Bleach speed, and I don't watch the anime - but for me nobody reaches mftl until Aizen/Mugetsu, S0, Kenpachi etc etc etc
I'll just do speed since the speed meta has been on my mind a lot recently:What do yall think are the optimal speed and AP tiers for Bleach characters per arc (Substitute, SS, Arrancar, SAFWY, Fullbring, TYBW, CFYOW)?
What do yall think are the optimal speed and AP tiers for Bleach characters per arc (Substitute, SS, Arrancar, SAFWY, Fullbring, TYBW, CFYOW)?
There are ways to interpret the SAFWY stuff to not mean that Aza and Zaraki can destroy the entire Dangai, which imo is the more consistent interpretation. Also, the planetary Dangai meta comes from assuming only the planets got affected in MoN (since WotL and SA got dragged in the Dangai in MoN) to argue Dangai is just vaguely above planet sized. So, it’s not that SAFWY makes the Dangai more planetary, albeit I agree that Aza and Zaraki shouldn’t scale to the entire Dangai anyway as it creates some issues.See I know the dangai can be argued Low 2-C but the way SAFWY interpreted it, Kenny and Azashiro nearly destroying it was like planetary tier
And it would seem to make more sense in that context given Gremmy could fight a MUCH stronger Kenpachi yet himself needed to amplify himself with 8 clones to the max to perform what was at best a 3-C feat
Even if you wanked it to 3-A somehow that is still literally beyond infinitely weaker
Not now at least, I only think so because of Senju's feat, but that's a CRT for when Cour 3 comes outWait people unironically think bleach reaches immeasurable?
There are ways to interpret the SAFWY stuff to not mean that Aza and Zaraki can destroy the entire Dangai, which imo is the more consistent interpretation. Also, the planetary Dangai meta comes from assuming only the planets got affected in MoN (since WotL and SA got dragged in the Dangai in MoN) to argue Dangai is just vaguely above planet sized. So, it’s not that SAFWY makes the Dangai more planetary, albeit I agree that Aza and Zaraki shouldn’t scale to the entire Dangai anyway as it creates some issues.
No lmao, traversing spatiotemporal barriers aren’t qualified for immeasurable speed.Not now at least, I only think so because of Senju's feat, but that's a CRT for when Cour 3 comes out
It isn't because of that, it's because it is technically time travel because of how each realm has a separate time axis. Since the Soul Society and the WoTL are not synchronized in terms of time, you would be time traveling because of the current event in the Soul Society would be at a different time in the WoTLNo lmao, traversing spatiotemporal barriers aren’t qualified for immeasurable speed.
You’re still blatantly wrong. Hopping to different spacetimes doesn’t equate to nonlinear movement through time.It isn't because of that, it's because it is technically time travel because of how each realm has a separate time axis. Since the Soul Society and the WoTL are not synchronized in terms of time, you would be time traveling because of the current event in the Soul Society would be at a different time in the WoTL
I'm confused, is that not how CC Goku got Immeasurable speed?You’re still blatantly wrong. Hopping to different spacetimes doesn’t equate to nonlinear movement through time.
I would say no because the Almighty is a lot of things and not just attacking from the futureDon't Yhwach's feats with the Almighty against Ichigo completely doo-doo on Immeasurable speed for anyone without the Almighty at the very least? Not being able to react to attacks that move through time non-linearly sounds like a textbook anti-feat to me anyway, regardless of the stuff with Senjumaru's reiatsu.
Yes, yes they are.Don't Yhwach's feats with the Almighty against Ichigo completely doo-doo on Immeasurable speed for anyone without the Almighty at the very least? Not being able to react to attacks that move through time non-linearly sounds like a textbook anti-feat to me anyway, regardless of the stuff with Senjumaru's reiatsu.