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Baki verse downgrade

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NikHelton said:
In which story arc was the Baki earthquake feat performed?
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It was performed during the arc right before his fight with his father.

We could scale the characters down to a baseline of 8-B, gradually building them up to 8-A.

Regarding Orochi being weak. It would make sense if he became 2-3 times weaker.
But it doesn't make sense when the difference is more than 2000 times.
It's like after a cold your body becomes like tofu or paper in terms of strength.
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No, 8-B is representative of the strength of Baki, who is almost at the level of Yujiro at that precise moment. It's a god tier feat. It would mean everyone is capable of tanking the lightning bolt of yujiro right away from the beginning of the series. That would create an absurd amount of inconsistancies to fix only Doppo in the end. Doppo is inconsistent, but that's the best we can manage to get currently. There is NO scenario where absolutely everything is consistent, because Itagaki wrote Yujiro's strength differently since Baki's flashback.

Anyway, it seems nobody is voting.
 
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Well since the calc members find it fine I'm ok with keeping Baki's 8-B feat

The Pickle meteor impact is bunk, nothing else to say

A bunch of other feats need to be calced now that there relevent, of the top of my head I recall Yujiro's fight with Kaku Kaioh which could potentially yield someting good.

As for LS the 100 Ton figure we get from Sukune fit in way more than class M within the Baki verse considering Olivia's feats of strength early on
 
CuddleFox said:
It was performed during the arc right before his fight with his father.


No, 8-B is representative of the strength of Baki, who is almost at the level of Yujiro at that precise moment. It's a god tier feat. It would mean everyone is capable of tanking the lightning bolt of yujiro right away from the beginning of the series. That would create an absurd amount of inconsistancies to fix only Doppo in the end. Doppo is inconsistent, but that's the best we can manage to get currently. There is NO scenario where absolutely everything is consistent, because Itagaki wrote Yujiro's strength differently since Baki's flashback.

Anyway, it seems nobody is voting.
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What do you mean by Baki's flashbacks?

There is nothing special about lightning tanking. This is 8-C.

When I talk about level 9-A, I mean Retsu, Hanayama, and other high tier fighters.
I can admit a difference of 10 times, but not in 2000.

The same Hanayama was able to put a drop of blood on Yujiro
 
Shmeatywerbenmanjenson said:
Well since the calc members find it fine I'm ok with keeping Baki's 8-B feat

The Pickle meteor impact is bunk, nothing else to say

A bunch of other feats need to be calced now that there relevent, of the top of my head I recall Yujiro's fight with Kaku Kaioh which could potentially yield someting good.

As for LS the 100 Ton figure we get from Sukune fit in way more than class M within the Baki verse considering Olivia's feats of strength early on
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We need the best feats of mid-high tier characters.

I heard Garlan shook the building. Could you drop the head and the size of that building
 
NikHelton said:
What do you mean by Baki's flashbacks?

There is nothing special about lightning tanking. This is 8-C.

When I talk about level 9-A, I mean Retsu, Hanayama, and other high tier fighters.
I can admit a difference of 10 times, but not in 2000.
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If Doppo passes 8-B, all the rest of the cast, including the maximum tournament passes 8-B, including Retsu and Katsumi. Everyone except Baki when he was 13 and the people who scale to him. You don't seem to know about Baki's powerscaling.
Doppo is not 2000 times stronger than all the 9-A people he faced like Dorian, who is equal to Retsu. So we raise retsu to 8-B too? As well as Katsumi and Hanayama who are comparable to them? Baki Jack and company with them, since they scale to them. And so on, ali, ali jr who scale to jack, speck who scale to hana, so much so that all those in 9-A will go to 8-B+.
Half of the baki scaling is attached to a 9-A feat, the other half to 8-B+, if you scale doppo to 8-B, everyone go up with him. And that means that suddenly everyone is capable of doing yujiro's over the top feats, like killing the giant elephant, that is just 9-A+, and tanking his lightning, that is just 8-C. And Speck suddenly have more than a hundred time the strength to one shot the statue of liberty.
Accepting that 2000 times weaker inconsistency for doppo is much less of a pain in the ass than all the things implied if he goes to 8-B.

NikHelton said:
I heard Garlan shook the building. Could you drop the head and the size of that building
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The only information we have about the Garland earthquake is the people of the korakuen wondering if there was an earthquake. As the korakuen is underground, I doubt that he shook the whole tokyo dome.
 
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CuddleFox said:
If Doppo passes 8-B, all the rest of the cast, including the maximum tournament passes 8-B, including Retsu and Katsumi. Everyone except Baki when he was 13 and the people who scale to him. You don't seem to know about Baki's powerscaling.
Doppo is not 2000 times stronger than all the 9-A people he faced like Dorian, who is equal to Retsu. So we raise retsu to 8-B too? As well as Katsumi and Hanayama who are comparable to them? Baki Jack and company with them, since they scale to them. And so on, ali, ali jr who scale to jack, speck who scale to hana, so much so that all those in 9-A will go to 8-B+.
Half of the baki scaling is attached to a 9-A feat, the other half to 8-B+, if you scale doppo to 8-B, everyone go up with him. And that means that suddenly everyone is capable of doing yujiro's over the top feats, like killing the giant elephant, that is just 9-A+, and tanking his lightning, that is just 8-C. And Speck suddenly have more than a hundred time the strength to one shot the statue of liberty.
Accepting that 2000 times weaker inconsistency for doppo is much less of a pain in the ass than all the things implied if he goes to 8-B.


The only information we have about the Garland earthquake is the people of the korakuen wondering if there was an earthquake. As the korakuen is underground, I doubt that he shook the whole tokyo dome.
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Everything would be easier if we had acf ratings.
On that site, Yujiro and Baki are High 8-C while the rest of the verse is 9-A+/8-C+
 
Chiharu's height = 185 cm = 1300 pixels;
Chiharu's hand (without brush) = 405 pixels = 57.63 cm;
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Chiharu's hand = 710 pixels;
Window = 1510 pixels = 122 cm;
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Window = 275 pixels;
House height = 645 pixels = 286 cm;
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At first I thought the results were too low, but it looks like Baki lives in a barn

Baki's height = 168 cm = 1040 pixels;
Wall height = 1190 pixels = 192 cm;
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Wall height = 430 pixels;
House height = 645 pixels = 288 cm;
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Although, the fact that I achieved 2 as close results as possible through 2 different methods says something

The walls in the house are shown low
 
Therefir, what do you think about this?

Have you made a new version of the skyscraper vibration yet?
 
Therefir said:
The Baki verse do consistently shows Tier 8 feats, like aside from the nukes statements they don't really go beyond Tier 8.

And Itagaki loves his earthquake feats, but you'll never see him drawing Yujiro destroying numerous city blocks with a single punch like this, which makes me believe he doesn't really know how earthquakes work, or how strong they really are.
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Alright i will calc a feat then you will see by yourself
 
Therefir said:
It has the same issues that caused the crushing coal feat to be discarded, it requires more than just brute strength alone to perform, the feat is supernatural in nature.

That would require a different thread to be handled.

Hoarding so many revisions at the same time is probably the reason why the profiles are in such disarray, I recommend you to get rid of the earthquake feat first and scale the top tiers to the next best feat.

As you predicted, I calculated Yujiro shaking the skyscraper as High 8-C.
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Tell me, can we calculate a Baki earthquake with a magnitude of 3.5 or 4?

The description from this chart reads:

3,0-3,9 "Often felt by people, but very rarely causes damage. Shaking of indoor objects can be noticeable"
4,0-4,9 " Noticeable shaking of indoor objects and rattling noises. Felt by most people in the affected area. Slightly felt outside. Generally causes zero to minimal damage. Moderate to significant damage very unlikely. Some objects may fall off shelves or be knocked over"

This would give 2.68 Tons (High 8-C) and 15.08 Tons (8-B), which makes much more sense for the verse, since characters who haven't had a 1000x up in history are capable of hurting god-tiers.

Magnitude 3.5 describes what happened in the picture. Someone felt an earthquake and someone's TV almost fell. It also corresponds to the vibration of a skyscraper.
 
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I feel like we should just stop discussing these new feats, and vote now. Then, once everything get agreed, make another topic for further changes. Because everything's going in 10 directions at the same time since page 2.
 
CuddleFox said:
I feel like we should just stop discussing these new feats, and vote now. Then, once everything get agreed, make another topic for further changes. Because everything's going in 10 directions at the same time since page 2.
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This will create a huge number of threads. We have already solved the issue of speed and lifting strength.

It remains to solve the AP issue
 
Well if it says magnitude 3-4 is enough for people indoors to feel the tremor, then the low-end should be fine.
 
Therefir said:
Can you tell what's up with the amplitudes of 1, 2 and 3 centimeters? What exactly decides the use of one over the other?
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When Ugarik and I were putting together this method, we decided that an amplitude of 1 cm is a good score, as it will be felt and seen from a distance.

Higher magnitudes were added for the experiment, but seemed very questionable.
In the end, if there is a displacement of 3 cm, then the material will simply collapse.
1 cm seems safe
 
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Katsumi suddenly explodes

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This calculation should also be rejected, since the pressure of 20 psi implies the complete destruction of reinforced concrete structures and 100% fatality, but the building did not collapse and it looks like the only damage is broken windows and cracks on the walls
 
Could you give a chapter in which Retsu sprayed the wall? Or some other mid-high tier feat that will give the result 8-C
 
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