Attack Potency, Problems and Clarifications (Staff only)

[KLOL506]

So, what are the baseline values for 9-A and 8-C?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

IIRC 5 kg of TNT can destroy a house.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Mr._Bambu/General_Calc:_Exploding_a_City_Block

58.6 tons of TNT for destroying a 274 m-long, which is kinda big for a city block as said by Kep. That should be the upper cap of 8-B imo.

 

[Andytrenom]

@Spino Upper caps are determined by the baseline value of the succeeding tier. Upper cap of 8-B would just be lower cap of 8-A.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Wait it seems that Bambu's calc assumed 20 psi, while 10 is enough. Which means 8-B should be even lower.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

@Spino Upper caps are determined by the baseline value of the succeeding tier. Upper cap of 8-B would just be lower cap of 8-A.

Oh, ok. Though I still think 100 tons is too high.

 

[Antvasima]

The even values are left over from Polar-kun's old random values before Kavpeny revised most of them.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

To destroy 2 big city blocks would mean a 274-m radius. Assuming 10 psi and dividing by two, the explosion is 292.2 tons. Though 274 m is a rather big city block.

If I used 80.5 m which seems rather small, it would be 7.43 tons, significantly lower.

Either I screwed up or wtf.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

The even values are left over from Polar-kun's old random values before Kavpeny revised most of them.

Where did he get them from?

 

[Andytrenom]

Destroying two city blocks is lower than city block level. Very logical.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Exactly ovo.

 

[KLOL506]

Destroying two city blocks is lower than city block level. Very logical.

00F

Lotsa verses gon' go up.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Should I attempt to calculate baselines for the tiers and make a blog about it?

 

[KLOL506]

Sure. As long as the sources seem good, I'm all for it.

 

[Andytrenom]

@Spino That would help things a lot.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

What would City Block move down to if 2 city blocks is bellow that current level?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I will make a blog.

 

[Antvasima]

Polar-kun didn't get his values from anywhere. He just used even multiples for every higher tier, x10, x100, x1000, etcetera.

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, I would appreciate if DontTalkDT and the most skilled calc group members would handle or at least evaluate all of the upcoming calculations, so we are sure that they are accurate.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Actually I did screw up on the city block level calculation, as the explosion would have to be bigger in order to fully destroy the city block. The result is slightly higher than what I previously calculated.

 

[KLOL506]

Anyway, I would appreciate if DontTalkDT and the most skilled calc group members would handle or at least evaluate all of the upcoming calculations, so we are sure that they are accurate.

I'll notify Antoniofer and Assalt as well.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Calculated the Tier 8 part here. Unsure what value to use for High 8-C.

 

[Antvasima]

@KLOL506

Okay. Thank you.

 

[KLOL506]

Anytime, Ant.

 

[Skalt711]

Should Tier 8 bounds be redefined?

 

[Hellbeast1]

I mean if seems like it (curious to see what happens to 6)

 

[Ugarik]

I'm confused. Are we moving the borders or just calculating the size of the destroyed object as a baseline of a particular tier?

 

[Hellbeast1]

We're chsnging the values

 

[Skalt711]

@Ugarik The latter.

 

[Elizhaa]

@Ugarik The latter.

Yeah, Skalt711 is correct.

 

[The_Causality]

So according to this blog, mountain level baseline should be 1.45 megaton if i understood correctly

 

[Elizhaa]

The Causality, which blog to be honest?

• https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Darkanine/Mountain_level_and_Island_level
• https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Lina_Shields/Mountain_level_and_Island_level
• https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...elds_-_Mountain_and_Island_Level_Requirements
  • Source: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/S...ountain+level&fulltext=Search&ns500=1&ns502=1

I am guessing Lina's but it doesn't look evaluated.

 

[The_Causality]

I Talked about this one

I'am confused, I have understand that we use the Size of the object of the tier but how we Definite the Baseline when we use all the five destruction value (Like Pulverization, Fragmentation...)?

 

[Elizhaa]

I think Pulverization should baseline as it has been for most tier, The Causality.

 

[Ugarik]

I calced baseline 7-A mountain to be 3682 m tall. And 7933 m for high 7-A.

Since Lina Shields had the same results I guess I don't need to create my blog.

 

[Antvasima]

As far as I remember Lina's blog was evaluated and accepted, and turned into the Mountain and Island level requirements official page, but he had a bit of a mental breakdown and started deleting his old blog posts. We were able to restore the blogs themselves, but not the comment sections.

 

[Antoniofer]

I most admid that around the tiers 7 and 6 all borders are quite arbitrary, I even heard that the tier 8-B and 8-A are out of their names since people have calculated the yield bia explosion and found different results.

7-A couldn't be the average mountain when we already found out that to be around oir current Low 7-B, and still do not known what island is used as reference for 6-C and High 6-C (there's no standard size for islands).

 

[Hellbeast1]

Hmm what's the most common island size?

Alternatively we could go with the "quintessential island)

 

[Ugarik]

7-A is 3682 meters tall mountain and 6-C baseline is Cyprus

 

[Andytrenom]

@Antonio Isn't Low 7-B the value for small mountains, not average?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I'm fine with 6-C but 3682 mountain seems rather random.