Armor Duel: Erza Scarlet vs Tony Stark

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Credit to Newendigo for coming up with this match.

Speed is Equalized, High 7A Stark, Fight takes place on the Helicarrier.

Erza Scarlet: 5

Iron Man (Marvel Comics): 5

Inconclusive: 0

 

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@Cal already made this match up ones and it just stopped after 2-3 votes and considering all Erza matches I doubt this will keep going.

Also, what about creativity? Lol

 

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Well Cal never bumps threads so...

 

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Oh well... Inconclusive since Erza needs to get close enough only ones and just use wing blade armor to bypass his armor or Nakagami armor for one shot and she can do it with sword spam by just taking him down from sky in case he decides to stay in air only. And well tony can hope to beat her before she success at getting him, but considering the amount of punishment Erza can take, that won't be easy.

 

[Newendigo]

The Golden Avenger.

Not only he has a few good counters to Erza stuff: Freon rays to handle fire, absorption grid to get most kind of energy, disrupt fields agaisnt electricity users, sonics to stun enemies, seeking missiles to counter HW's swords and power amplificators to match her in close combat.

But also better suited in combat with all his weapon already in hand, while Erza need to switch between armors (I know that she can do this quickly, but is not as good as have a multi-uses knife), and Tony has a quick thinking to see her pattern style, and thanks to his experience with the Avengers he can figure out her game and play dirty.

I doutb that she would go with this armors to the Get-Go, useless this is about life or death (Correct me if I'm wrong), the Wing Blade armor does not seems to bypass durability, it looks more like she can ignore distance (Since, she can cut without direct contact) and if I'm not wrong, this girl doesn't seems to be sliced in half by the Nakagami Armor (Again, correct me if I don't know the context).

Erza could easily handle illusions (And maybe invincibility), but she will get a hard time dealing with his forcefields (Which he can amplificate as well) and armor resistances such a fire and electricity.

If I miss something then please tell me because I only see some clips of FT (Just clips, not actual episodes), but for now I'm going with the Merchant of Death.

 

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His armor and force fields are nothing against wing blade armor that ignores them entirely.

 

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Uhh....Those Ignore Durability, not shields.

 

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Wing blade doesn't ignore durabilty it ignores armours and barriers as it cuts without making a contact. It's called limited durabilty negation because it hits directly the body.

Did you even read her profile?

 

[Newendigo]

"Cuts without making contact".

That is my problem, it sounds more like ignore distance rather than durability.

I maybe a idiot, but what does "cut without direct contact" has to do with endurance?

 

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She cut in front of a dudes sword and her attack hit him directly ignoring the sword entirely. Also, cutting without contact means she can cut his body bypassing anything in her way.

 

[Newendigo]

So is a rip-off of penetrate!!!

What about the Nakagami starlight? I not seeing that girl being sliced in half by that.

 

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^It's for the gore, FT barely even has blood in it. In fact at max you get mouth bleeding -.-. When Erza cut Azuma they censored blood with white light.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

^It's for the gore, FT barely even has blood in it. In fact at max you get mouth bleeding -.-. When Erza cut Azuma they censored blood with white light.

The manga is more bloody but in general the violence is toned down.

 

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I wonder what will anime do with Acnologia stomping Irene's death body and her suicide...

 

[Newendigo]

Bullshit! How dare they to not animate such as pleaseant body mutilation!?

So either, she doesn't start with that and Tony overwhelm her or she start with that and one-shot Tony...

I'm still siding with Stark, Erza doesn't seem to the type of character mutilate her opponents to the GG.

 

[Theglassman12]

Tony should take this for the reasons stated above.

 

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@New Don't underestimate her. If her opponent has an armor and she has a weapon to bypass she will use it. Just like she used wind and water swords against Ajeel since he is sand and wind and water are super effective. She saw only her Nakagami armor can beat Minerva and her space manipulation and she used it.

Also, they censored in the manga as well so...

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Tony can just fly away from Erza and nuke her. I see no way that she can do anything without her Dura negating armour, so I give it to Tony for the versitility advantage.

Also, is the Iron Leigon in play here?

 

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Tony tends to get in "close" combat against an opponent that can't fly, Erza can take him down with spam of hundreds of sword like she did with Acnologia and has limited flight for a minute or two that's more than enough to reach tony in air, and switch her armor there which is something that helps her so she has several options there. She has two armours that can one shot.

 

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I'd like a scan of him "getting close" because that sounds ludicrous for someone who has a computer literally analyzing everything for him.

 

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Computer can't analyse something it didn't see before so he won't know what Erza's armours can do before actually seeing them.

 

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<Can't analyze something it hasn't seen before

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What exactly are you confused about? You want to tell me he can analyse Erza's pocket dimension and what's stored in it...

 

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You mean like Ghost Rider (Marvel Comics)? Who he analyzed almost immediately?

Or Thor (Marvel Comics)? Who he analyzed almost immediately?

Saying a supercomputer that is literally meant to analyze stuff it's never seen before can't analyze something it's never seen before is, quite frankly, downplay. Of course it's going to take time.

 

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You do understand that his analysis of Erza will tell him Erza can summon wepaons from her own pocket dimension, but saying that computer will also tell him what's exactly stored or better what characteristics every armor and wepaon in that pocket dimension have is NLF.

When he analysed Thor and Ghost rider what did he find out in the first place and I also don't see how are they similar to Erza in the first place?

Also, he annalised Thor and Ghost rider ones he saw them...

 

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An NLF stands for a "No Limits Fallacy"

Nowhere, ANYWHERE in my argument did I say he can analyze everything. YOU said he can't analyze something he's never seen before despite finding out Thor was from a World in another Universe and that Ghost Rider can summon a bike from, you guessed it, a pocket dimension, albeit that's a few installments.

So no, certainly not an NLF if he has feats of doing it.

Why does every FT thread go like this?

 

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Computer can't analyse something it didn't see before so he won't know what Erza's armours can do before actually seeing them.

This phrase literraly says he can analyse Erza's armours only ones he sees them so it's you the one who misinterpreted things not me dude...

He couldn't ask the computer to analyse Thor before he actually saw Thor.

 

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Exactly, that's what you said, what exactly did I misinterpret? He can know that she's got a variety of armors she can summon.

He's analyzed stuff he's never seen before, and I gave two examples.

......Well no shit, he saw Thor before he analyzed him and found out about him, the same can be done here as they are both fighting each other.

Drop it

 

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He knows that she has variety of weapon she can summon, but won't know what those wepaons can do until she actually does summon them, is what I said.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Can you provide an image of said analyzing feat and it's background? I find it hard for the computer to analyze an armor/sword and find out what it does let alone that she even has that ability, just by looking at her. The suit might detect traces of magic, but how it is used it's another story.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Also please keep in mind that this variation of Tony is using his Armor Model 8. That is wildly different from what he's using currently, and to my knowledge it doesn't even have a analyzing computer build into it.

 

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I've been over this before, being on a phone has issues, so I suppose I don't blame you if you don't believe me.

Regardless, Scarlet, The Analyzing Computer is J.A.R.V.I.S, that's in all of his suits and one of his most iconic.

 

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He knows that she has variety of weapon she can summon, but won't know what those wepaons can do until she actually does summon them, is what I said.

This could have been specified...

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Regardless, Scarlet, The Analyzing Computer is J.A.R.V.I.S, that's in all of his suits and one of his most iconic.

I beg to disagree. The analyzing properties of it would only become better with time and I don't remember Tony interacting with magical beings at that time so JARVIS analyzing magical weapons is farfetched. The suit was destroyed by Firepower (Taggert) for crying out loud.

 

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Wait I might be misremembering something but did he not meet Thor with this suit? Or was that in second suit?

Cause if it was the second, drop everything I said.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Do you have a scan of Iron Man commenting on Thor being from another world?

 

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Do you have a scan of Iron Man commenting on Thor being from another world?

Pretty sure there is a legend about Thor so the moment he saw him he didn't need to analyse him to know that... I might be wrong.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Apparently they first see each other on Avengers #1

 

[Newendigo]

Tony can just fly away from Erza and nuke her. I see no way that she can do anything without her Dura negating armour, so I give it to Tony for the versitility advantage.
Also, is the Iron Leigon in play here?

I don't believe that he can just simply fly away and nuke her, I heard that she has dealt with worse things before.

That would be summoning, while I'm agree that he should have it, this version of Tony is very limited with it (He can only use like, 5 armors which are at best City level).