Another ~ Sakuya Izayoi vs Bayonetta

[Scarletmoon56]

Me think it's time for another Sakuya vs Bayonetta thread as I forgotten what was the outcome of the other ones. But both are in the same tier again thanks to the oni girl! Both at their stongest High 4-C and Speed Equalized.

Sakuya Izayoi : 1 (Jiangshi)

vs

Bayonetta: 7 (Gargoyle One, RebubleUselet, Paradox, Sir Ovens, Weekley, glassman12, Paradox)

An Endless Time Stop: 2 (COB, Dragonmasterxyz)

 

[AquaWaifu]

Sakuya wins due to overall more versatile time manipulation.

 

[Schnee_One]

To which, Bayonetta resists.

Bayonetta time stops and slaps her with Bazillions, Shuruba, or whatever she decides really and calls it a day.

Plus, she's also significantly sexier.

 

[AquaWaifu]

if thats the case then this battle is stupid and should be closed on account of being a horrendous stomp.

 

[Schnee_One]

Umm....Why?

Scarlet has made some stomps before this isn't one of them.

Tho in the latter scenario I mentioned she does stomp.

 

[Scarletmoon56]

What's a better matchup for Sakuya then?

Okay then this can stay open?

>Latter Scenario she stomps

...that being, Bayo's sexier?

 

[Schnee_One]

There isn't one.

This one is fitting, and it make sense.

 

[Schnee_One]

Latter Scenario she stomps

...that being, Bayo's sexier? </div>

 

[AquaWaifu]

You literally just said Bayo resists Sakuya main ability and use Bazillions or Shuraba or other stuff on here with her own time stop.

her age manipulation, and existence erasure are tied to use of her time manip which as you JUST SAID Bayo resists....all she has is summoning other versions of herself..( which she ant do due to Bayo stopping time on her) and forcefield creation ( not much use here ) and soul manipulation which Bayo ALSO resists.


so tell me HOW is this not a stomp, give me some info other "No its not"

 

[Schnee_One]

What exactly stops Sakura from erasing her with a thought?

And you DO realize Sakura won the previous match despite zero changes this time right?

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/722366?useskin=oasis

 

[AquaWaifu]

her existence erasure is tied to time manipulation

 

[Schnee_One]

Erasing a persons time and stopping time are two completely different things.

You have to be Acasual to not die to that.

 

[AquaWaifu]

Then Sakuya wins due to erasure

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Erasing a persons time and stopping time are two completely different things.
You have to be Acasual to not die to that.

^Basically this. This is why Bayo has a loss to Sayo on her file.

 

[LordGinSama]

I'm gonna have to agree with Aqua here. If she can literally resist Time Manipulation and if Sakuya's EE is Time based then Bayo should be able to resist it. Saying otherwise is reaching.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Bayo resists time stop. Not outright erasing someone's time.

 

[LordGinSama]

Does Bayo resist Time Manipulation itself or just sub categories such as Time Stop / Slow etc?

 

[AquaWaifu]

it should resist time stop, then on her profile, not time manipulation as a whole, since that can ccover a a very wide array of abilities.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

The latter.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Time Stop and Slow. As I posted above. See this loop hole is how she has a loss to Sayo.

 

[AquaWaifu]

So I my original vote counts, Sakuya wins due to far more versatile use of time manipulation.

 

[Schnee_One]

And how she lost to Sakuya

 

[LordGinSama]

Ah gotcha, got confused with the first few comments. Well is it in character for Sakuya to erase someone's time right off the bat? And how quick does it take? I can see Bayo taking this.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

So both resist time stop and Bayo can resist age manip.

Both have equal ways to one-shot, Bayo with Bazillions, and Sakuya with time erasure.

How fast is Sakuya with her time erasure and does she start with it?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

The literal deciding point here is if Sakuya starts with Time Erasure.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Any 2hou experts in the room?

 

[Scarletmoon56]

Can't really say myself if Sakuya erases from the get go. Get Saikou or COB here.

 

[Schnee_One]

From what I got from the previous thread she leads with her time Stop then uses her Erasure.

Issue, if two people Time Stop at the same time and one resists....Yeah.

Plus it's debatable if Sakuya does, I've heard from Fate and Saikou that she might not still.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

If Sakuya does... what? Resist time stop or erase from the get go?

 

[Schnee_One]

Leads with Time Stop, then uses Erasure.

Is there something confusing about this?

 

[LordGinSama]

Yeah I'm gonna wait for Saikou to comment here.

 

[Schnee_One]

it should resist time stop, then on her profile, not time manipulation as a whole, since that can ccover a a very wide array of abilities.

Erasing someone's time isn't Time Manipulation, it's existence Erasure, as stated on her profile.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

I'd go with inconclusive, cuz IMO it depends on how early Sakuya is using her Erasure after the time stop and I think that Bayo might activate Witch Time before she uses it

 

[Schnee_One]

She would.

Both are using their time Stop at the start, but Bayo resists.

Simple really.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Okay then, switching to Bayonetta

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Wait, Sakuya doesn't resist time stop? Wouldn't it make very little sense that Sakuya can't resist time stop when she can time stop herself?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Just because you manipulate time =/= you can resist someone else manipulating time.

 

[Schnee_One]

99.99% of characters in existence resist their own Time Stop.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

But if they both stop time, and can move around in said stopped time, can't they just fight like normal?

 

[Schnee_One]

If that was the case.

<Dio would not get caught by Jotaro's Time Stop, and vice verses

<Dante would not be affected by time shifts in DMC4.

TLDR no you don't get resistance.