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Okay, but Genos also deflected and clashed with two blasts from her main body.
But again, since you apparently think the calcs are wrong and don’t follow basic science, then we cannot come to a conclusion here.
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But again, since you apparently think the calcs are wrong and don’t follow basic science, then we cannot come to a conclusion here.
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I feel that the Psykorochi calc being wrong should be moved to another discussion.
Also considering no one has no further objections, I think we can get on with the changes. Would anyone like to do it or just me?
Also considering no one has no further objections, I think we can get on with the changes. Would anyone like to do it or just me?
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Ped2018
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good
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I guess so.
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He hasn't been calced yet, so sadly no. But it's likely a strong Class T upgrade. Which is epic
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So, I'm done. Feel free to do clean up or correct any mistake I did.
Also can anyone unlock GOD's page? @Qawsedf maybe?
Also can anyone unlock GOD's page? @Qawsedf maybe?
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Hammerhead actually
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FYI I already edited that in.
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I've unlocked the page.
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Done, you can close again
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I think we should reconsider this matter again because if it was accepted, we should apply this to Bang and Orochi as well. Nullflowerblush disagreed with this.
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Should probably change from "High 7-C+" to "At most Low 7-B" then
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Do y’all realize that H-Garou’s High 7-C+ has circular reasoning now? He gets it from fighting TTM, who then gets his rating from fighting H-Garou.
Also I still think TTM doesn’t need a second key for a single chapter amp.
Also I still think TTM doesn’t need a second key for a single chapter amp.
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Well. Some of us agreed with it right? @Qawsedf234 what do you think?
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We can't have circular reasonings. Either we don't change it or we adjust how they're scaled.
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Human Garou is weaker up until he started using the WSRSF on TTM did he not? I aboslutely stand by that Human Garou during his first appearance should not fully scale to baseline Low 7-B as I've stated earlier. I would take "At most", but straight-up Low 7-B is a no
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No. I'm asking if you agree with Nullflowerblush regarding WSRSF should not have its own tier. What do you think about it?
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TTM actually comes from being on par with post superfight Genos, I forgot to edit his profile. Sorry, my bad
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WSRSF shouldn't be a new tier. It doesn't enhance the user, it just allows them to deflect attacks and hit vital spots.
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Do you think Garou should downscale from TTM to High 7-C+ or just be At most Low 7-B?
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WSRSF doesn't increase the user's strength but it can be used to damage characters who would tank your attacks if you hit them without the technique. That's because it is specifically designed to harm pressure points. If it gets a new tier (which I agree), it should be specified that :
1-It doesn't increase power but technique and presicion.
2- It works better against human-shaped bodies, as stated in the manga.
It would help us understand why he was able to deflect attacks from Metal Bat that would have killed him if they had connected. Metal Bat one shot Senior Centipede who is stated to be able to tank Spiral Incineration Cannon, which was intended to kill Garou. Then a more pumped up Metal Bat fought Garou and the latter had to use WSRSF to avoid the attacks.
1-It doesn't increase power but technique and presicion.
2- It works better against human-shaped bodies, as stated in the manga.
It would help us understand why he was able to deflect attacks from Metal Bat that would have killed him if they had connected. Metal Bat one shot Senior Centipede who is stated to be able to tank Spiral Incineration Cannon, which was intended to kill Garou. Then a more pumped up Metal Bat fought Garou and the latter had to use WSRSF to avoid the attacks.
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Those are some good points, but I stand neutral for now.
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But he already has Attack Reflection, Pressure Points added to his profile.
Also, while we're talking about Garou, can you see if this scan proves that Half-Monster Garou can harm opponents who in turn can harm himself so that we can scale his AP to his durability as well? Because in other instances, he always proved that his durability always matched his AP, not that he is a stonewall.
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It doesn't seems so, plus Royal ripper harming garou seems like an outlier to me. As he's nowhere near threat level dragon. And it would also lead to characters like Royal ripper gaining possibly 7-A+, which is bullshit and leads to circular scaling like the whole case with evil eye
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Garou would end up scaling to his own dura regardless, he just wouldn’t scale initially.
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Was there ever a consensus on the PPP scaling to Melzalgald thing?
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3P will scale to Melzalgald as long as there's somebody that can debunk what I said to Nullflowerblush.
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If it wasn't a blade that did it I wouldn't care to scale it that way. But Tier 7 force being applied through a blade harming Garou isn't that shocking.
For in-universe evidence look at Sonic, where if he had his gear he could beat DSK due to his sword.
For in-universe evidence look at Sonic, where if he had his gear he could beat DSK due to his sword.
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Can you repost what you said then?
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I see, thanks.
You can see that argument in the following links here:
He didn't seem to reply to me since the last post.
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Honestly I can’t even tell what the hell is happening in the scan before PPP catches his tentacles, aside from Metal Bat and PPP hitting Melzalgald’s tentacles, they aren’t avoiding them.
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Garou was perfectly fine just jumping around Metal Bat and dodging his attacks normally. He even blitzed Metal Bat at one point in the fight. Garou rarely used Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist in the fight, only using it a few times to warp Metal Bat's swings out of the way before proceeding to knock him around with his punches, and to counter Metal Bat's Killer Move, before striking him in the abdomen and breaking something. However, he did note Metal Bat's attack made his hands shake.
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They seem to avoid Melzalgald's tentacles and what I mean is that they're making its tentacles not directly hit them like it once hit Bang, so I don't understand how that warrants scaling.
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This is the "textbook definition" of tanking, hell even no-selling.
Pri-Pri-Prisoner leaps over the heroes and then turns around to talk to them, only to get punched in the face by the Monster. While he was distracted and off-guard, he took the punch and did not budge and only reacted to it after the fact. He was obviously unaffected by the Monster's punch.
"And you can see that that monster was able to harm him, causing his nose to bleed with its punch."
Chip damage ≠ he harmed him. The nosebleed is also only visible for a single panel. In the pages following, his nose is no longer bleeding, so this is a moot counter, considering the other piece of evidence pointed out above.
"This and this doesn't imply that they are comparable. Puri and Metal Bat seem to avoid taking Melzalgard's hits, and Puri catches his tentacles, Bang instantly follows him by obliterating its head."
Everyone seems to be avoiding taking hits from Melzargard, so do we downgrade Bang to Small City level+ or upgrade Melzargard to City level? You also just can't ignore the fact that:
- The damage Pri-Pri-Prisoner did to Melzargard is greater than the damage that Bang did to Melzargard, most likely due to his larger physique, but still.
- Pri-Pri-Prisoner managed to pummel Melzargard, drawing blood from him and causing him to respond to the pain, with a barrage of punches, eventually leaving holes in his body. And remember, Melzargard isn't a glass cannon.
- We can see Pri-Pri-Prisoner countering Melzargard's attacks with his own before grabbing onto his arms mid-charge and restraining him, to the point Melzargard could not move, even after Pri-Pri-Prisoner began watching Bang.
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And? Garou being faster doesn't mean Metal Bat's attacks were not stronger than Garou's durability. They were. And him harming Metal Bat is the same case, it just means Metal Bat would damage himself too. I don't see a problem with my scaling.
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