He can powernull Venuzdonoa but if he want to kill himself he obviously would let venuzdonoa do the job, according to the madness hax and after that Anos just regenerate back with High-Godly so unless you can prove that the effect can last after rebuild a new Mind, Soul, Body and Concept then i can accept incon.
Well it depends on if he still has a body left, there are mfs in the novel who still got madness haxxed by a dead body laying on the floor,also I have a question, does the sword require an activation of some sort first ? Cause it looks like it needs to swing first to do some sht.
Dead body =/= having his whole body, mind, soul and concept rebuilded.
Look at venuz feat section. Sword doesn't even requiere to be swung to actually do its stuffs.
I just remembered, demons can exist after their name /concept is destroyed and they retain their fear and madness stuff so yeah Dante can survive from the concept getting nuked, that is enough for an incon I assume. Also the mind was accepted to be AE type 1 /metaphysical in dmc so it is not just a regular mind in any other verse.
Dante only have Low-Godly regen.
Mid godly, but we forgot to address the demons being able to exist after their concept gets erased,I assume we can still use stuff that hasn’t been presented in the profiles yet since you guys did use that for the madness stuff, so how about that ?
We didn't used the madness stuffs, you see that Dante wincon still madness? We ain't using anything that's not in the profile, just pointed out that madness is a thing in verse but would have to wait like 2 years to it being back in the profile, also mid-godly still useless against High-Godly regen negation, plus Venuz can permanently kill beings without concept of existence as well.
So if you gonna agree with madness stuff we presented dantes Wincons are zero
Lmao no we already stated that the hax is layered and can affect metaphysical and AE type 1 shit, Dante even does it to demons who are resistant /get stronger from it, your claim is total bs.
Hax layered means nothing for the proof i showed regarding the regeneration, and if we are going to use stuffs not accepted in the profile then lets use Anos 99*uncontably layers of haxs + Nonduality Type 2, Aspect 3 and NEP Nature 2, All Aspects.
The scan Tatsumi sent us based on Madness manipulation Based on Type CM. So you need to prove Dante Madness hax works on that level.
That is fair, one of the supporters had told me that the demons existing with no concepts stuff that I had brought up was accepted in a thread but they had forgotten to apply it but I’m waiting on them to send the thread, also dereck brought up venuz being able to permanently kill beings who lack a concept but I don’t see it on the profile nor on a thread that it was accepted in.
Bitch there are at least 5 threads we apparently didn't add from 2021
cool for you.
No way bro's winning when he gets one-shoted lmao and anos still alive, but idc either way.
You pretty much didn't read the thread it seems. No one has brought up regen as a counter to this.
Given how this has been extensively debated in the beginning of this thread, I now don't know who to believe on this matter. Should what you're saying be true, the opponent doesn't need to resist the madness hax as resisting the fear hax would prevent the madness from working
No, it's not. Both still remain the same thing, inflicting madness on top of the fear hax doesn't make it anymore impressive than it normally is. Should we follow this logic then Anos fear hax is more impressive because it causes the opponent to die instantly
That's a bold conclusion to come to so what evidence do you have to support it? Anos Eyes of Destruction, Venuzdonoa can destroy any powers that try to affect him and it is passive.
Why would he destroy himself, or even use Venuz and then regenerate to his normal self, isnt he just insane with the effects? Like at best assuming both characters have passives that work on each other then both just incon.
According to DMC folks Anos will be wanting to kill himself if he gets affected by the madness and yeah Anos regeneration is passive so why he wouldn't be able to regenerate back? Also prove that the madness effect can last even after when Body, Mind, Soul and Source is destroyed.
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The fear inflicted by the hax is so much that it leads into madness, if you're shown to resist less than that then it's very likely you'd fall anyway, albeit with more difficulty.
Because it's not directly a "power" per se, it's just Anos seeing something and getting affected, it's a sixth sense that tickles the back of the skull.
Sorry, typed that out a long time ago and forgot to send.
Actually this "was"a thing.
So it's not NLF in verse context, but still we need at least 1.5 years more to add it back, or we can use the same scan to propose the ability since it's translated by JP dude.
Not how it works. Resisting the cause= the effect doesn't happen.
Then that thing itself gets destroyed instantly either way. This will be a case where Venuz passively nukes either way so the existence causing the madness is wiped out
I sent a bunch of quotes and others have sent scans showing this isn't a foreign concept. Madness hax already exists in the verse and is resisted with anti-magic, anti-magic which is something even fodders are capable of using. Anos eyes of destruction, Beno Ievun also have feats of negating powers that try to affect the user
Just to confirm, what was your vote? Since you seems to be voting when i joked about Dante FRA stuffs.
Well they do turn insane and suicidal, so assuming Anos manages to actually kill himself, how does he come back.
Dante has more Votes because of FRA train instead of arguments. I doubt counting is even worth it.
Bullshit, Dante voters gave their arguments, you just refuse to accept them.
