Anos VS Dante

[Tatsumi504]

Despair, Madness, Fear any negative emotion is already a power up for Demons in DMC, they still get trashed by Dante.

So I don't see how it's helping Anos.

So does Dante, he has also shown progressive build up of resistance to increaseing ailments.

To what extent? Anos RE comes in two forms the normal one allowing him instantly adapt to attacks before they affect him and then the one on steroids. A previous MG thread already clarified multiple scenarios where layering hax is simply done with an increase in magic power with the same pertaining to resistance still Anos adapts instantly.

Dante still has no counter to any of Venuzdonoa's powers which are layered like CM 1, Law, Fate manipulation, Greater Power null, Logic Manipulation, Resistance Negation as well power modification which will take control of all his abilities meanwhile Anos will adapt to all his stuff faster than Dante's RE can layer it. So long as Venuzdonoa is in play, Dante has no wincons here.

 

[Fixxed]

The sword is getting haxed too tho

How can a sword getting madness hax??? Bruh this is a sword not a person

 

[Vietthai96]

How can a sword getting madness hax??? Bruh this is a sword not a person

Probably from Dante feat which can fear hax inanimated object

 

[Tatsumi504]

Probably from Dante feat which can fear hax inanimated object

But how will that make it go mad when the madness didn't affect inanimate objects? Fear hax also won't work on Venuzdonoa thanks to resistance, AE 1 & Layered defensive power null

 

[Fixxed]

Probably from Dante feat which can fear hax inanimated object

I think it just for his fear ability and not the madness one

 

[Vietthai96]

I don't freaking know at this point, the debate start getting confusing lol

 

[Dereck03]

I don't freaking know at this point, the debate start getting confusing lol

Average Viet moment.

So the Wincons
Dante (Madness hax)
Anos (Venuzdonoa conceptual nuke and RE)

Dante can't put Anos down nor incap and Venuz can one-shot permanently killing Dante.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Average Viet moment.

So the Wincons
Dante (Madness hax)
Anos (Venuzdonoa conceptual nuke and RE)

Dante can't put Anos down nor incap and Venuz can one-shot permanently killing Dante.

Dante has Low Multi AP that would be problem

 

[Dereck03]

Dante has Low Multi AP that would be problem

AP ain't doing shit here if first move of Dante is Madness and Anos is Venuzdonoa.

 

[Dog3352]

Voting for Anos FRA (I don't know what FRA means).

Is someone going to count the votes?

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Voting for Anos FRA (I don't know what FRA means).

Is someone going to count the votes?

For reasons above.

 

[Godsatoshi23]

My vote is for Anos.

I don't know how dante gonna defend himself against Venuzdonoa.

 

[Robo432343]

i vote incon

 

[Palito266]

Does Dante start in DT?

 

[SYPHe5D]

Does Dante start in DT?

Yes.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Does Dante start in DT?

Op didn't specify so SBA-kun mean strongest forms aka SDT

 

[Palito266]

Op didn't specify so SBA-kun mean strongest forms aka SDT

Anos and his Sword get haxxed passively and can't do anything (because regen doesn't counter these types of hax's unles it's specified) and Dante gets his Concept haxxed too.

BTW Madness Hax works via Fear Hax, because the Fear Hax is so much that it directly causes madness. Basically, it's way better than a baseline fear hax because it directly makes you go crazy aside from having fear. Resisting this amount of fear is MUCH MORE IMPRESSIVE than just resisting baseline fear without further context, or baseline fear hax at that.
Also, Power Null wouldn't work against this since this hax is both Perception-Based and Aura-Based, so they would get haxxed either way.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

layered power null is resisted anyways and Dante have RE to increase his power null resistance.

 

[SYPHe5D]

I would like to ask the anos supporters, does anos’s RE and resistances operate on 4D level ?

 

[noninho]

Her ikisi de eşit hızda
Hazırlık Yok ve Sınırlama Yok

Come on my g, lemme read the OP ;-;

 

[LordGinSama]

How many layers do both have???? I keep on hearing both sides mentioning layered hax GG but nobody bothers actually posting the amount of layers.

 

[SYPHe5D]

How many layers do both have???? I keep on hearing both sides mentioning layered hax GG but nobody bothers actually posting the amount of layers.

We have posted ours already on how potent our passives are above.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

How many layers do both have???? I keep on hearing both sides mentioning layered hax GG but nobody bothers actually posting the amount of layers.

I did >_>

 

[LordGinSama]

We have posted ours already on how potent our passives are above.

On this page? No not really. Perhaps on the earlier pages but I'm not about to sift through 5 pages of mindless arguing to find the layers for both. That'd be the equivalent of me trying to find a piece of hay in a stack of needles (even harder than finding a needle in a haystack.)


It's not that hard of a request. Just post the layers again so everyone that's new to the thread can see and vote based upon that.

 

[LordGinSama]

I did >_>

Do it again bby

I don't wanna read multiple pages of dumb shit. ;u;

 

[Dereck03]

Why layers are being argued now? Heck, dante didn't even resist baseline CM 1 destruction.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

The baseline is the whole "fodder < DW < low tiers < mid tiers < High tiers < God tiers < Dante"

Then you have something like this

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

I would like to ask the anos supporters, does anos’s RE and resistances operate on 4D level ?

By the way, have you been able to find proof that the things you mentioned are 4D?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Why layers are being argued now? Heck, dante didn't even resist baseline CM 1 destruction.

Again, no one is remotely even implying Dante can tank the sword. It's like you guys aren't reading the arguments.

 

[Dereck03]

Again, no one is remotely even implying Dante can tank the sword. It's like you guys aren't reading the arguments.

I did read, and i'm now seeing dudes asking for layers and i'm asking why? I would understand if it were a battle of equal abilities, but we're talking about who one-shot the other.

Then you have something like this

Scaling chain.

 

[SYPHe5D]

By the way, have you been able to find proof that the things you mentioned are 4D?

Already addressed in the past pages,respectively I don’t think you are even reading your own thread.

 

[Eseseso]

Dante FRA

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

Already addressed in the past pages,respectively I don’t think you are even reading your own thread.

I couldn't find it because there were too many messages.

 

[Dereck03]

Dante FRA

Literally gets one-shoted by Venuz but if dudes are saying Dante FRA then Dante FRA.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I mean, incon is the most likely outcome given both passives but since you are the role model

Dante FRA

Literally gets one-shoted but if dudes are saying Dante FRA then Dante FRA.

Dante FRA

 

[noninho]

Dante FRA

 

[SYPHe5D]

incon, if anos gets haxxed he will kill himself since that’s a secondary effect of the hax but dante will get hit by the sword, if it is passive ofc.

 

[Dereck03]

I mean, incon is the most likely outcome given both passives

incon, if anos gets haxxed he will kill himself since that’s a secondary effect of the hax but dante will get hit by the sword, if it is passive ofc.

If the Madness hax would last even after Anos rebuilt with a new mind body and soul and even if somehow Anos destroyed his own source with Venuzdonoa or Bezbed then it would be an Incon, but I doubt it would last even after Anos destroyed his own concept and regenerated back.

since you are the role model

Dante FRA

Counted.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Dante FRA

Literally gets one-shoted by Venuz but if dudes are saying Dante FRA then Dante FRA.

Move this thread to fun and games

 

[SYPHe5D]

If the Madness hax would last even after Anos was rebuilt with a new mind body and soul and even if somehow Anos destroyed his own source with Venuzdonoa or Bezbed then it would be an Incon, but I doubt it would last even after Anos destroyed his own concept and regenerated back.

Counted.

Doesn’t he negate his own shit?