An old Rivalry's Final Resolution - Mario vs Kirby

[Eficiente]

3-C vs 4-A, so hopefully it's fair now.

Speed =

Mario: 1 (DatOneWeeb)

Kirby: 9 (EMagoIorSouI, Vsguy75, TriforcePower1, Genericstickman, FateAlbane, Dragonmasterxyz, DarkDragonMedeus, The Smashor, Asuka the Demonic Empress)

Inconclusive: 0

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

I believe Kirby still wins this. A simple toss of the empathetic heart and Kirby wins.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Kirby can abuse the power of friendship. I guess he can just win with this. Not voting yet, though.

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

I suppose it's fair since Mario does have the AP advtange, while Kirby has the advantage of hax.

 

[Vsguy75]

How much higher is Kirby's AP than Mario's, enough to one shot or not?

 

[Genericstickman]

But don't the empathic heart only work on fodder and knocked out enemy's?

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

But don't the empathic heart only work on fodder and knocked out enemy's?

Presumably it's only a gameplay mechanic that restricts the empathetic effect towards stronger enemies, otherwise any non-fodder enemy would have resistance to Empathetic Manipulation, which they don't.

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

How much higher is Kirby's AP than Mario's, enough to one shot or not?

Also, Mario is now Galaxy level (3-C), giving him the AP advantage and ability to oneshot Kirby. That is to say if he /does/ oneshot Kirby, since Kirby can just throw a heart at the plumber and call it a day.

 

[Vsguy75]

@EMagolor

So Mario one shots then, I'd still go with Kirby though as he has more hax including transmutation IIRC and far more abilities which make up for his lower AP

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

There's also their range. Kirby's range is stellar while Mario with his abilities is merely tens of meters with power-ups. Maybe if they were 10 meters apart Mario may have a chance.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Bump

 

[Eficiente]

Just clarifying, Mario can resist Transmutation from Magi Koopas and Kamek.

 

[Kirby71]

How far is Mario into 3-C?

Kirby still seems virtually immortal, low-godly to survive the one-shot (if Mario could) and Kirby soul (fan name) to resurrect.

 

[DMB_1]

@Kirby71

Mario is a baseline 3-C, I believe.

 

[DatOneWeeb]

I think I'm going for Mario. While yes Kirby has more hax Mario has the ap advantage and his own hax should be able to counter Kirby's.

 

[Kirby71]

I think I'm going for Mario. While yes Kirby has more hax Mario has the ap advantage and his own hax should be able to counter Kirby's.

Isn't Kirby the one who counter mario's?

 

[TriforcePower1]

The problem here is that you can't kill Kirby via AP as the pink puffball has Low-Godly. So if it was unfair before, it's probably still unfair now

 

[Eficiente]

If Mario can kill ghosts shouldn't that bypass Ghost Kirby's type 7?

 

[TriforcePower1]

Probably, so I guess it's still fair.

Kirby gets a new friend FRA.

 

[Bobsican]

Voting for Mario via Side B >

 

[Kirby71]

Im the only one Who has thought on the possibility of Kirby having 2 Souls? His own Ghost form and his heroic heart?

 

[Eficiente]

Bump.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Mario can attack at a distance by dancing. He can even blow up souls in this method.

 

[Kirby71]

Mario can attack at a distance by dancing. He can even blow up souls in this method.

Well, in the time Mario dances, he Will be most likely be dancing kirby's victory dance with Kirby celebrating their friendship.

Also Kirby knows a weird transmutation ability that involves dancing, woah.

 

[Eficiente]

Mario can attack at a distance by dancing. He can even blow up souls in this method.

A major distance than Kirby's range? Also is that in-character?

Also Kirby knows a weird transmutation ability that involves dancing, woah.

I don't think this is accurate, what ability?

 

[Kirby71]

Also Kirby knows a weird transmutation ability that involves dancing, woah.

I don't think this is accurate, what ability?

Festival kirby is= to Mario using fire to transform people into coins, Kirby dances and everyone on screen has Been transformed into Kirby's version of coins.

 

[Eficiente]

Game mechanics.

 

[Bobsican]

Game mechanics.

It doesn´t even works on comparable beings (aka, bosses and that sort of stuff), so it wouldn´t matter.

 

[Noahkaismith]

Game mechanics.

A lot of the stuff in Kirby's profile comes from game mechanics, like existance erasure.

 

[Kirby71]

Game mechanics.

A lot of the stuff in Kirby's profile comes from game mechanics, like existance erasure.

How does existence erasure to be Game mechanic? Which ability in fact?

 

[Eficiente]

@Noahkaismith Kirby's EE comes from eliminating enemies instantly (including ghosts) with a move supposedly called Erase. I don't see how that are game mechanics.

 

[Bobsican]

That move can work with bosses? Mario is higher than Kirby, so it could not affect him.

 

[Eficiente]

• Working with bosses or not is irrelevant, as they not get resistence to it. Hax usualy don't work with bosses, which are game mechanics that don't indicate at all the true context of the situation.
• Any character being higher/stronger than other doesn't magically give him resistance to durability-ignoring hax.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

During the events of Mario Dance Dance Revolution, he did a whole adventure by doing nothing but dancing for all of his battles, so it is in-character to that extent for him to use his dancing abilities. As for the range, abilities induced by dancing, such as Bowser creating storms across several kingdoms, shows that they should be at least many kilometers in range, and since both Kirby and Mario have a range of over four kilometers with different abilities, via SBA, they would start four kilometers apart.

 

[Eficiente]

That doesn't realy prove it's in-character.

 

[Genericstickman]

I'll vote Kirby FRA

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

The fact he has done it during many battles even to start battles should prove that it's in-character.

 

[Kirby71]

But that's just a one game, spin-off game.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Spin-offs matter, too, not sure why pointing out that it is a spin-off is relevant. So is every other Mario game where he demonstrates any hax or personality.

 

[Eficiente]

Bump.