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So making the Universe infinite will make this dimension infinite too and so 5D happens
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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Infinite size? I thought it had to have significant size?
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Oh yeah, true.
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is not like we have adventure time and a bubble being a 4-D object with a 3-D shadow.
Ruphas_Mafahl123
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No, but characters with enough strenght can overpower soul sucking abilities such as the reaper death seal and Human path soul-sucking justsu (ie KCM Mode Naruto and Orochimaru). Shown in Naruto, can you imagine an Otsutuski not overpowering Nagato's soul stuff? no, so there you have the answer.
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yeah i didn't mention that
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Since Dragon Ball Kai is canon, does the scene where Kid Buu destroys the Galaxy exist?
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it was with overtime, with days of overtime
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Mr. Alexander, do you need anything?
StarShooter80
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If I can recall yes
However the Buuhan feat still exists, and Kid Buu is very well above him
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"Before reaching the final line, however, he had already understood that he would never leave that room, for it was foreseen that the city of mirrors (or mirages) would be wiped out by the wind and exiled from the memory of men at the precise moment when Aureliano Babilonia would finish deciphering the parchments, and that everything written on them was unrepeatable since time immemorial and forever more, because races condemned to one hundred years of solitude did not have a second opportunity on earth"
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space time manipulation and Kid Buu is not stronger than Buuhan
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Yes, but we also rate it as scaling to all Stats here
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Limited, yeah.
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and I ask, why or what?
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Rephrase your wording (I don't understand)
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why?
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i still think the environmental thing works better than just, outright scaling
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you know how i am
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I remember this well, so is anyone doing something about 2-C Buu saga? I'm really worried about outdated profiles.
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Good
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Where did you get this text from, Mr. Alexander?
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proceeds to denote it in bold
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What is bold?
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who the **** is that?
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We here in Brazil call it Yhwach
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oh, ahora eso tiene sentido
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No it does not, Buu's thing was done with his own Ki. He was breaking/affecting the dimensional walls of the universe on a 4-D level, you need like tier 2 energy output to do that regardless, becouse affecting it does count aswell. Thats AP, the people that say it doesn't scale to Buu's stats either do not know how Ki works or didnt watch Dragon Ball Z properly
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aha, and many other things are done with Ki and that does not automatically make it a direct scaling to power.
actually thats a very big insult because it would be arguing that at that point in the story, the characters were universal, when obviosly they were not
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And how is that a "very big insult" exactly? Because it was stated verbatim that Buuhan was going to collapse the universe with his own power. And then they introduce Kid Buu, who in the anime continuity was stated by the narrator and characters like Goku to be the strongest version of Buu at that point, who has his own feats at that level like threatening to destroy the Grand Kaioshin Planet or destroying the Kaioshin Realm alongside Super Saiyan 3 Goku.
So whether you want to say it's some insult or not, there's clearly an intent to have those characters be that strong at the end of Z/Kai.
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a very big insult to the story and logic?
Goku, needed VEGETO and that was a mandatory fusion to defeat Buuhan, and Goku fighting Buuhan is a tremendous inconsistency because Gohan in his ultimate phase>Goku super saiyan 3, and the argument that "Goku grew in power" does not work Because Goku did not train, Goku only revived, but reviving does not increase his power, he only does it when he obtains a zenkai, which is when he is on the verge of dying, and he was not on the verge of dying, he was directly dead.
and Kid Buu has not shown me anything to be the most powerful Buu beyond fighting against Super Saiyan 3, he has only proven to be the most dangerous because, that thing does not reason, it destroys things and that's it.
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But that doesn’t matter. Vice Shout is explicitly a matter of power, and all that feat is—Named Outside Space—Is a massively amplified version of Vice Shout. As stated by the Daizenshuu.
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Huh? How?
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1. In fact it does matter, because again, just because it is an ability made by ki does not mean that it is something as related to power, it would be like shunkanido, it is not related to speed, or the mafuuba, or the time stop ability from guldo.
I don't know, somehow Goku in Super Saiyan 3 is more powerful than HIS SON, who was said to have surpassed him in Power after unlocking his mystical state?
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Except it gets supported multiple times.
Goku then fought and matched a perfect copy of him in just Base-SSJ, while nerfed to 1/100th of his true strength.
This is wrong. In the Toei Anime’s continuity it’s explicitly stated Saiyans get their Zenkai’s just from reviving too. Twice.
In the Manga he is the most dangerous, but not the strongest. In the Anime, a separate continuity, they explicitly state Kid Buu is the most powerful Buu. Repeatedly. Goku, Vegeta, the Narrator—They’re all saying the same thing. Genuinely just is different.
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