Alien x Immeasurable Lifting Strength

[E6pire]

Yes, it is a simple topic, I hope it will be short.

Alien x currently has 1-b striking strength. He exchanged blows with the galactic gladiator, who was of the same race and equal to him, and at the same time grabbed and raised punches from each other. This will make their lifting strength Immeasurable.

 

[zaraus]

l agree

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

That's not how Lifting Strength works, Lifting Strength is being able to lift a object and Immeasurable LS is for doing it to higher Dimensional objects, Low-2C and above in size.

Disagree.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

As Pepsi said, that's not how Lifting Strength works, I disagree.

 

[E6pire]

That's not how Lifting Strength works, Lifting Strength is being able to lift a object and Immeasurable LS is for doing it to higher Dimensional objects, Low-2C and above in size.

Disagree.

As Pepsi said, that's not how Lifting Strength works, I disagree.

Why doesn't it work like this, is there such a rule, you literally grab the 1-b punch and raise it, What's the difference? Likewise, since mordecai wrestled with muscle man, he received the same lifting strength, there is no difference.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I disagree with this, Alien X and others of the same species have a difference in power, only Alien X from Ben 10 demonstrated range 1-B, others of the same species is inferior to it, as we can see, Alien X from Reboot is canon and is still inferior to the main series (just like a gladiator who was inferior)



Not all Alien X have equal powers

 

[E6pire]

I disagree with this, Alien X and others of the same species have a difference in power, only Alien X from Ben 10 demonstrated range 1-B, others of the same species is inferior to it, as we can see, Alien X from Reboot is canon and is still inferior to the main series (just like a gladiator who was inferior)

Lol our topic is not reboot alien x.
Celestialsapiens See the page Everyone Is Considered Equal Including Striking Strength. Also, if you watch the video, gladiator alien x can easily damage, in this case, the striking strength will be equal to the alien x, so there is no problem with that.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Lol our topic is not reboot alien x.
Celestialsapiens See the page Everyone Is Considered Equal Including Striking Strength. Also, if you watch the video, gladiator alien x can easily damage, in this case, the striking strength will be equal to the alien x, so there is no problem with that.

I know, but not all Alien X have the same power as Ben 10, Gladiator was attacking while Ben 10 was defenseless, he was defenseless because he needed permission, after that, Alien X manages to win too easily

Even if this page worked, which is not the case, others of the same species do not have the same power, as we can see, the Gradiator is inferior and the others of the same species are also

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

Going to have to disagree with this due to Pepsi's reasons.

 

[E6pire]

I know, but not all Alien X have the same power as Ben 10, Gladiator was attacking while Ben 10 was defenseless, he was defenseless because he needed permission, after that, Alien X manages to win too easily

Even if this page worked, which is not the case, others of the same species do not have the same power, as we can see, the Gradiator is inferior and the others of the same species are also

Bro, if you think that's the case, then change the page, it literally says they are equal power , and if you watch the video, the gladiator tanks his attack over and over again

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Why doesn't it work like this, is there such a rule

Yes.

There is such a rule.

Literally written in emphasis on the very page you linked in the OP.

While Striking Strength measures the energy of a character's physical attacks, Lifting Strength measures the amount of mass they can lift, which is determined by the amount of force a character can produce. This means that they measure two different physical quantities. Furthermore it can't be assumed that a character that can physically produce the amount of energy used in lifting an object by a certain height can also lift it, if it didn't demonstrate the ability to produce that level of Lifting Strength. It is a common feature within fiction to feature characters capable of vastly greater physical striking strength energy outputs than what would be required to lift weights that they are repeatedly shown to struggle with.

Hence Lifting Strength and Striking Strength are in general not comparable and should be evaluated separately.

Likewise, since mordecai wrestled with muscle man, he received the same lifting strength, there is no difference.

If you're gonna engage in whataboutism, at least know the justifications used by the verse you're referencing.

Mordecai gained his own lifting strength by scaling to Muscle Man's lifting strength, not his striking strength. Nobody said grappling with someone was an invalid method of scaling to another's lifting strength, just that you'd scale to the other character's lifting strength, not attack potency or likewise stats.

 

[E6pire]

Yes.

There is such a rule.

Literally written in emphasis on the very page you linked in the OP.

Yes, it still doesn't refute what I'm saying, if you get a fist or something that will destroy a 1-b structure and you grab it, you get the scale because you're removing the destruction or damage.

If you're gonna engage in whataboutism, at least know the justifications used by the verse you're referencing.

Mordecai gained his own lifting strength by scaling to Muscle Man's lifting strength, not his striking strength. Nobody said grappling with someone was an invalid method of scaling to another's lifting strength, just that you'd scale to the other character's lifting strength, not attack potency or likewise stats.

Don't worry, I know lol. These are the only examples. These are not the only examples in the truest sense of the word

Class P (He can fight Ben Tennyson's Aliens like Humungasour and Diamondhead)

Literally, other people, such as rex and finn, get his lifting strength just because he fights the opponent

 

[E6pire]

Mordecai gained his own lifting strength by scaling to Muscle Man's lifting strength, not his striking strength. Nobody said grappling with someone was an invalid method of scaling to another's lifting strength, just that you'd scale to the other character's lifting strength, not attack potency or likewise stats.

Also, this argument you gave is so inconsistent for your rejection, that is, if the muscle man is not at the K level, why does mordecai get K level power because he fights it? So striking is the same as lifting the strength, you automatically scale that structure because you're holding the hit that will destroy that structure

 

[PrinceofPein]

Disagree FRA

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

I disagree. This all refers to striking strength but I also have a CRT for Alien X to get immeasurable lifting strength

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

That's not how Lifting Strength works, Lifting Strength is being able to lift a object and Immeasurable LS is for doing it to higher Dimensional objects, Low-2C and above in size.

Disagree.

Then this should qualify for immeasurable lifting strength for Alien X then.

 

[Mayonez_king]

I agree

 

[LordGriffin1000]

We don't scale striking strength to lifting strength in this way, grabbing someone's fist or tanking the punch is not grounds for scaling, characters who grapple with each other only scale to the display lifting strength of the character in question. Like the others, I disagree with giving Alien X Immeasurable Lifting Strength for this reasoning.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

We don't scale striking strength to lifting strength in this way, grabbing someone's fist or tanking the punch is not grounds for scaling, characters who grapple with each other only scale to the display lifting strength of the character in question. Like the others, I disagree with giving Alien X Immeasurable Lifting Strength for this reasoning.

Is this a valid reason for immeasurable lifting strength then?

 

[DemonicDude]

Welp, i guess this should be closed.