Alien X 3-A Downgrade

[Greenshifter]

If he is shown to only create the galaxies back one by one, why do we assume that he is also creating time?

We also see a reality-warping wave under his feet. Meaning he’s doing more than just creating those galaxies one by one.

 

[AKM sama]

I see.

I will point out though, there is no evidence linked to Annihilargh page for any of the justifications. So that needs to be done.

 

[My_area]

How is that related to Alien X? How does Annihilaargh being able to create the universe and its time scale to Alien X?

Basically, its justification doesn't explain Alien X Low 2-C all too well, any non Ben 10 fan would probably question why thats taken as Low 2-C

It basically came from Annihilarg which creates a universe if there is no universe or if there is a universe then it destroys a universe, since it used same energy principle just to perform 2 opposite things, we naturally assumed that Annihilarg creation = destruction hence Annihilarg destructuon was also Low 2-C, Alien X then recreated the universe almost exactly like it was before after universe getting destroyed by Annihilarg.

So naturally if Annihilarg Low 2-C AP destroyed the timeline, then Alien X has to recreate not only space but time of the universe back as well. That is the history behind that justification being used for Low 2-C tier

 

[Greenshifter]

I see.

I will point out though, there is no evidence linked to Annihilargh page for any of the justifications. So that needs to be done.

All right, will do. So the Annihilaargh creating the universe scene (in the final episode) is clear enough to indicate that it created the entire space-time continuum and not some weird moment of time + kickstart or whatever?

 

[My_area]

I see.

I will point out though, there is no evidence linked to Annihilargh page for any of the justifications. So that needs to be done.

That can be easily fixed. Just have to provide sources

 

[Greenshifter]

Also I can agree to Feedback getting downgraded if we wanna assume the Annihilaargh Maltruant uses is weaker.

 

[Sus]

Also I can agree to Feedback getting downgraded if we wanna assume the Annihilaargh Maltruant uses is weaker.

is there any proof it's weaker?

 

[Sus]

also, I'm pretty sure the annihyada created the universe from absolute nothingness

 

[My_area]

is there any proof it's weaker?

From what I gather, it comes from Annihilarg being modified by Maltruent to appear as explosion rather than expansion of space and time which original Annihilarg more closely resembles. Big bang being shown as explosion is taken as 3-A in this wiki

 

[Sus]

From what I gather, it comes from Annihilarg being modified by Maltruent to appear as explosion rather than expansion of space and time which original Annihilarg more closely resembles. Big bang being shown as explosion is taken as 3-A in this wiki

yes but shouldn't creating a universe from nothing justify low 2C?

dang it, I'm better at 1A stuff more than 2C stuff

 

[My_area]

yes but shouldn't creating a universe from nothing justify low 2C?

dang it, I'm better at 1A stuff more than 2C stuff

If the Big bang is shown as explosion in the verse, then in this wiki it can be assumed that it didn't originate from pure nothingness but only spaceless void.

It can get complex yeah

 

[Sus]

can be assumed that it didn't originate from pure nothingness but only spaceless void

idk man it's implied that it's a timeless void too

but does it really matter? alien x scales to the original one anyway

 

[My_area]

Aha

Thats what I think too, only one who will be affected by modified Annihilaarg would be Feedback as Greenshifter pointed it out

 

[Sus]

well I'm being honest here the second one is nothing like the original one

but won't the timeless void equate to tier 2?

 

[My_area]

Second as in?

You mean on their own? Nope

 

[Sus]

?

 

[My_area]

Second Annihilarg as in modifed Annihilarg?

Timeless voids on their own aren't tier 2 is what I meant

 

[Sus]

Second Annihilarg as in modifed Annihilarg?

yes

voids on their own aren't tier 2 is what I meant

but it's implied that the jdbqbskddo created a timeline though

 

[My_area]

yes

I see, their denotion is depicted differently for sure.

but it's implied that the jdbqbskddo created a timeline though

I was talking about timeless voids in general. Creating timeline part is being argued here

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

How tf does one go from hyperversal to universal...

 

[Rez]

How tf does one go from hyperversal to universal...

Hyperversal who?

 

[DemonicDude]

How tf does one go from hyperversal to universal...

He didn't it's just how we see and depict things in our lives it's us who are giving him the scaling Alien X isn't "going" anywhere.

 

[My_area]

Hyperversal who?

Alien X

 

[Sus]

How tf does one go from hyperversal to universal...

high hyper cuz dr holiday said infinite dimensions

 

[Gohanblanco217]

high hyper cuz dr holiday said infinite dimensions

Low 1A because Celestialsapiens exist beyond infinite dimensions

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Alien X

When was Alien X ever hyperversal. Is he referring to Unicron?

 

[Sus]

Low 1A because Celestialsapiens exist beyond infinite dimensions

high outer because alien x manipulated real world

 

[Rez]

When was Alien X ever hyperversal.

Pretty sure never the most he was 2-B for servantis's statement that Ben could one day wipe everything out of existence in this form.

 

[Sus]

alien X is tier 0 due to being omnipotent y'all didn't watch the show

@AblanGG am i right buddy

 

[Gohanblanco217]

high outer because alien x manipulated real world

Tier - 1 because Alien x can wish himself to be beyond tier 0

 

[Sus]

Tier - 1 because Alien x can wish himself to be beyond tier 0

he is unbound by the tiering system because

 

[Gohanblanco217]

he is unbound by the tiering system because

This accurate Profile should explain it well

 

[Sus]

i swear who wrote this was mad as ****

Tier: At least High 0, via being omnipotent and "logic" (Not headcanon) Universe level attacks mean you're omnipotent. This is a fact, and there are no attack potencies higher than Universal! If you don't believe it, you're just a filthy downplayer! Hell, it could be confirmed that he's only an island buster, and I'd still believe this. Likely -1.

Name: Alien X

Origin: Ben 10 Wiki

Gender: Male

Age: Inapplicable

Classification: Wanked

Powers and Abilities: Energy blasts that can destroy universes, can create universes, omnipotent reality warping, omnipotence, ignoring the fact that there are attack potencies above universal, ignoring actual arguments, anything and everything. Forever.

Attack Potency: At least Multi-Irrelevant+ (Can create Universes! And that means that he's OMNIPOTENT! Because using attacks that are only universe level equate to being OMNIPOTENT!)

 

[Greenshifter]

Pretty sure never the most he was 2-B for servantis's statement that Ben could one day wipe everything out of existence in this form.

Nah for scaling above the Navigator, that statement has always been just EE.

Everyone stop derailing.

 

[KLOL506]

We've already discussed At least Low 2-C Alien X extensively before. I'll reply more later.

I'd suggest waiting for Firestorm to reply first.

 

[My_area]

When was Alien X ever hyperversal.

My bad.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Actually Alien x was in fact once rated as hyperversal on this wiki

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Actually Alien x was in fact once rated as hyperversal on this wiki

When? All I see in his history is 2-B and Low 2-C

 

[Sus]

probably referring to other wikis

 

[TokiNoOuja]

Also these guys need to lose their higher dimensional existence

Why?didnt they are a 5D Being?