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In other words your accusation is baseless and only feuled by stubborn belief that you cannot POSSIBLY be wrong.
mean it's got a 3-A statement. We can use that.
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Alien X 3-A Downgrade
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That's kind strange because The Annihilaargh (the same device that destroyed the universe) was gonna be used to Create an entire universe where space and time didn't exist yet :
We can clearly see there was only a white void implying that space itself didn't exist yet so the universe that the same device destroyed should've included space as well
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He should be yes, since it was stated multiple times by Ben and others that he recreated the universe, it never said that he recreated all the matter in the universe. It should at absolute worst still be a 3-A feat because the general interpretation of the statement is creating the whole space of the universe(supposing its 3-A for this example) and not just specifically matter in the universe which would require more assumptions to reach such conclusion.
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Yeah a separate thread for this was better. And as I said before, I agree with Zamasu's arguments completely. To comment on a few things.
When Alien X did his feat, the Annilaargh didn't even completely destroy the universe. We see the destruction still on-going when Ben is inside AX's pocket dimension to talk with Serena and Bellicus about using AX to restore everything. So if only recreating the matter that was actually destroyed grants 4-A, then things become even more hectic here when accounting for this since AX wouldn't be recreating a whole universe's worth of matter, but just an aspect of it.
Eh. Below 3-A is kind of stretching things, even if I agree with the downgrade. 3-A should be the bare minimum (assuming what im about to comment on next is actually wrong).
To give a small comment on this bit, I think there's something people here need to remember.
When Alien X did his feat, the Annilaargh didn't even completely destroy the universe. We see the destruction still on-going when Ben is inside AX's pocket dimension to talk with Serena and Bellicus about using AX to restore everything. So if only recreating the matter that was actually destroyed grants 4-A, then things become even more hectic here when accounting for this since AX wouldn't be recreating a whole universe's worth of matter, but just an aspect of it.
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Here's the thing shouldn't Alien x AP scales to his Reality warping? Celestialsapiens were shown to affect entire timelines via Reality warping and Alien X AP should scales to it which would be baseline low 2-C not only to mention that he has no anti feats that put him below low 2-C since he tanked a 3-A destruction with 0 difficulty
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To be specifically clear on what im referring to so people don't get the wrong idea or confused or anything, THIS is what I meant about the universe's destruction. The destruction still continues for an unspecified amount of time as Ben talks with Serena and Bellicus inside Alien X, with multiple destructive holes appearing to wipe space out.
Meaning, the universe wasn't 100% destroyed when they granted the authorization of AX to Ben.
Meaning, the universe wasn't 100% destroyed when they granted the authorization of AX to Ben.
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Also, Efficient is expected to make a comment on this tomorrow too, just a heads up.
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You want to know more about universal stuff? Ask Ultima and Don’t talk.
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But aren't you like, the budget Universe expert?
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Nice, we can apply the changes then
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Agree with 3-A Alien X
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isnt Alien X feat based in reality warping? Unless there has some good evidence, I disagree with scaling it to his physicals
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He tanked the universe being destroyed, and he can harm those who can harm him.
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11-C alien x
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We've already discussed At least Low 2-C Alien X extensively before. I'll reply more later.
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Did him? Wasn't Ben saved in his own dimension of Alien X body that is in other parallel universe or something?
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Interesting. A lot of people agree with 3A Alien X, but I agree that staff need to get some word of this thread.
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Alien X himself was standing right there when it all happened.
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he survived the annahl whatever
other guys from his species should scale to his durability
he can fight and damage them
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Love how people keep bringing up points that were extensively countered to death and act like that never happened.
And by that, I mean the timeline arguments when Zamasu laid out in full on why they are moot against the downgrade.
And by that, I mean the timeline arguments when Zamasu laid out in full on why they are moot against the downgrade.
My_area
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Its supposed to be through creation ability, because I dont see much indication for reality warping when he done that feat honestly
Its kind of like pocket dimension inside Alien X, or so I think is interpreted in this wiki
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I agree with the downgrade.
We're just gonna drop his tier every few months or so, aren't we?
We're just gonna drop his tier every few months or so, aren't we?
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When will people notice that tier 3 is outlier?
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Wait did Unicron (Transformer) got downgrade??
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Went from 1-B to Low 1-C in 2019, then Low 1-C to 2-A early this year
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It got downgraded from 1-B to low 1-C and then now 2-A
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Why he has 1B issue before?did Transformer has Hyperversal Cosmology in the comics ????
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Because Transformers doesn't have evidence of higher infinites. If it did, they'd still be 1-B
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This is the current justification listed on the profile right? If he is shown to only create the galaxies back one by one, why do we assume that he is also creating time?
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Because the aniilargh also created universe and it's time
The current counter argument against this is time always existed to some extent it just hadn't started until aniilargh created the universe in the beginning of time. How can time exist to some extent? It either exists or it doesn't
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Because the Annihilaargh is literally the same device that destroyed the universe and alien x recreated it
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as people said above
also alien x survived it and can harm who scales to himself
alien x should be in the same tier as whatever we scale the annhlidthing to
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