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Alien X 3-A Downgrade
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They don't qualify for higher dimensional existence by wiki standards
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string theory doesn't fit the requirements
we don't have any proof they're qualitatively superior to 4Ds
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No they don't exhibit any transcendce and if they keep hde someone will probably use that to try to upgrade x later on
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It doesn't fit because no transcendence is implied and they also need technology to accomplish low 2-C feats
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yeah
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no lol, creating a universe is either 3A or low 2C
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With all due respect, I don’t see why we’re waiting on Firestorm all because “Low 2-C Alien X was discussed extensively before already” when things have changed quite a lot since the last time.
And by that, I mean the Low 2-C standards changing the tier 2 game here.
And by that, I mean the Low 2-C standards changing the tier 2 game here.
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That's a different case because Gurren Lagann's 11D universe is legit, and that uses membrane dimensions, which is a different case afaik. Ben 10 doesn't have proof of it's dimensions being higher infinites or them being infinitely superior to one another
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Because he’s knowledgeable then?
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No it isn't the transcendence needs to be either shown in size or in form of fiction reality relationship
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Yes and I’m failing to see what he can bring in that wasn’t already said (and if honest, countered).
The fact that “Low 2–C was discussed before” was brought up tells me that old arguments will be reiterated again.
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… recounter Zamasu’s counters to my arguments so I don’t have to do it? Heck no-one even posted Zamasu’s last arguments so this entire thread hasn’t evolved past the last one lol, except when AKM briefly gave input.
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Idk if they said it or not but why would a feat performed by a group of characters effect a singular character
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it was something like ''celestial sapiens cannot survive a timeline destruction unless they group together''
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Was it related to chronosapein time bomb if yes than it's way more than a singular timeline
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Discussed before and that also says they can’t survive timeline destruction and that also implies they are susceptible to mana draining, which they aren’t. So WoG is discarded.
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how much ''creators'' Ben 10 have?
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Ok, so first of all, we should consider to make threads like this be staff threads, the last one couldn't even have its title serious and was meme'd AF. I saw the thread and I didn't properly keep up with it and helped out with a comment not out of lack of interest, but the sheer awkwardness it gave me to work on such an environment. This one is more acceptable, if I still had to read through some casual comments I would have loved to skip to get at this point.
Similarly, I don't agree with Firestorm about how Low 2-C was discussed extensively before, not in a proper anyway. I already pointed out how Alien X should be 3-A months ago and I don't remember him replying to it, nor any other staff. I was told at that instance how we just assume that the aniilargh destroys the timeline because that would be the opposite of the other thing it can do, create a timeline, but this extremely flawed for some reasons
Also it's not a 3-A durability feat at all, the bomb didn't blow up the universe right next to him, it made waves expand at ever-growing speeds, those waves become a 3-A feat only once they reached the whole universe, not before, being in 1 human-sized space of them doesn't need durability = to all the universe that got reached by full extent of the destruction.
Similarly, I don't agree with Firestorm about how Low 2-C was discussed extensively before, not in a proper anyway. I already pointed out how Alien X should be 3-A months ago and I don't remember him replying to it, nor any other staff. I was told at that instance how we just assume that the aniilargh destroys the timeline because that would be the opposite of the other thing it can do, create a timeline, but this extremely flawed for some reasons
- We have no reason to assume the aniilargh does so just because it would be the opposite of the other thing it does, any character, machine, weapon, etc. with powers over something can also do what seems to be the opposite but yet that doesn't need to be something that's 100% the opposite by all technicalities, just vaguely so. Ex. Someone with powers over magma can also unlock powers over water rather than ice.
- It makes sense on its own that the thing would create a timeline and yet only destroy a universe. It would f*ck the users otherwise and everyone would need to have type 1 Acausality to survive using it, creating a timeline makes sense as that way one would arrive at a new present age but in contrast why would anyone want to destroy a whole timeline rather than destroy just the universe around? That's pretty nonsensical.
- The headcanon aside, we have evidence to believe only the universe got destroyed, more so due to the evidence brought by this thread. Still claiming that the timeline got destroyed is hypocrite, Alien X's profile should have already have better evidence since I pointed out this flaw in it and the aniilargh should have better claimed what were the assumptions we put to it. It's simply dishonest to see AKM sama ask why does the aniilargh matter and get replied that it destroys the timeline and so Alien X recreated the timeline. Cutting off information and context like that keeps us all in ignorance and that's what's being used to keep Alien X at Low 2-C.
Also it's not a 3-A durability feat at all, the bomb didn't blow up the universe right next to him, it made waves expand at ever-growing speeds, those waves become a 3-A feat only once they reached the whole universe, not before, being in 1 human-sized space of them doesn't need durability = to all the universe that got reached by full extent of the destruction.
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Also wtf is Firestorm doing?
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Did Branes Cosmology implied that the different between 1 Dimensional structures is Infinitely Superior than the lower one's?
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He was once also 2-A in this wiki
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Why can’t they be the same as they are now lol
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people can't live happily knowing that someone can be downgraded but still isn't downgraded
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Annihilarg only created/destroyed a universe, it has no relation to where Contemillas comes from ie a 5th dimension except it being experiment for Contemilias.
There is a alot of evidences linking Gurren langan cosmology to string theory, but its not the case with Ben 10 here, the best you get is Professor Paradox mentioning "string theory" but mentioning theory alone doesn't prove that verse follows it.
It was timeline and omniversal based on the person who was asking the question, now who knows that omniversal meant in that context
It was not related to anything, just general statement.
I was telling him the history of why he was Low 2-C before, none of this is false because I was there in old threads and seen why he was rated in such level. As for your other points, I will elaborate on that later.
3-A and via recreating the space of universe only
Also will become 3-A since Annihilarg is going to get pushed down to 3-A probably
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