Alcides "Fourth Labor" based NP

[PsychoWarper]

"Chiron's Immortality (Fourth Labor): An unnamed Noble Phantasm which embodies Heracles' Fourth Labor, the immortality of his mentor Chiron, who Heracles accidentally struck with an arrow tipped with Hydra poison. Unable to die but wracked with extreme pain, Chiron gave up his godhood and Heracles taking it to transfer it to Prometheus. As a Noble Phantasm it makes it so he can't die much like his Master but also afflicts him with the Hydra's Venom."

Abilities: Immortality (Type 1, 2 & 3: Cannot die after activating his 4th Labor, Chiron's immortality which was eventually given to Prometheus)

Weaknesses: When Alcides uses his Fourth Labor he is inflicted with the Hydra's Venom, which causes immense and unending pain which according toe Alcides himself would cause him to go mad in days.

Agree: 8 (Crim, Tllm, Zencha, Regi, Shadow John, New and Creature)

Disagree:

Neutral:

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Agreed.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Looks good to me

 

[Zencha9]

yeah seems good

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Was planning to do this in a Fate/strange Fake CRT once Volume 6 is completely translated (around 20% left).

But it should be Immortality Type 1, 2 & 3, instead of Type 4.

There is no actual stat sheet or materials that says that the 4th labor = 1 time resurrection; that is an uncited interpretation of the text posted in the TYPE-MOON wiki which can be wrong. In Volume 5, Alcides explains the power of the 4th labor, and states that it prevented the Hydra poison that entered his body from eating away his flesh:

He had used the vile sludge to consume it and prevent his bodily destruction . . . but that deadly poison, which had led to his own death and indirectly driven his third wife to suicide, had still been taken into his body.
It was the influence of King’s Order that kept it from eating away his flesh.
He had drawn out the power that he had taken from the Erymanthian Boar.
It was not, however, the boar’s own power.
The boar was not the greatest thing he had taken and conquered during that expedition.
It was the thing Alkeides, during his penance, had taken from his mentor Kheiron.
It was none other than Kheiron’s immortality.
Kheiron, a centaur bestowed with the power of immortality, had been struck by hydra venom due to a stray shot from Alkeides.

The pain had been so intense that, unable to bear it, Kheiron had surrendered his own immortality to Prometheus and ended his life.

Therefore, while Alkeides had lost the twelve substitute lives that his proper Spirit Origin possessed, he did possess a single substitute lifespan, Kheiron’s immortality until it was ceded to Prometheus, as one of his Noble Phantasms.
Activating it, however, meant nothing less than experiencing the same pain Kheiron had suffered.
At that very moment, that ceaseless agony—the same agony that had led him to choose death while alive—continued to torment him. He was currently cancelling it out by transforming that pain and suffering into strength through the influence of the “mud.”

I believe a proper interpretation of the ability is: Alcides can activate the Fourth Labor to claim Chiron's immortality for himself, but in exchange he will suffer the same pain Chiron suffered while infected by the Hydra poison.

Apocrypha also mentioned a bit about Chiron's immortality and states that Chiron's immortality makes him incapable of dying:

"Yes...I wish to have returned the immortality I passed to Prometheus."
Naturally, Fiore had done some reading on Chiron's legend after summoning him. From his uncommon birth to his tutelage of many a hero, Chiron left many legends - but most famous of all is the episode which led to him becoming the constellation of Sagittarius.
Caught in a conflict between the hero Heracles and his fellow Centaurs, Chiron was mistakenly shot by Heracles with an arrow tipped in the Hydra's poison.
Being immortal, Chiron could not die and so continued to suffer the agony of the poison. In the end, he passed on his immortality to Zeus to give to Prometheus, and finally died in peace.

• Give Alcides Immortality (Type 1, 2 & 3: Cannot die after activating Chiron's immortality which was eventually given to Prometheus, but in exchange will suffer the Hydra poison's immense pain that will drive him insane after four days).

 

[PsychoWarper]

Alright, hows that?

 

[Regidian]

Agree

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Agreed.

 

[John985]

agreed.

 

[PsychoWarper]

bump

 

[PsychoWarper]

bump

 

[PsychoWarper]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

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What do you think about this?

 

[Newendigo]

Agreed aswell.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Seems alright so I agree as well

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I suppose that this can probably be applied then.