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Ahzek vs Link

I asked cal about this a long while back, and he wasn't entirely sure if it was a stomp or not.

So, what defense does link have for Ahzek's warp sorcery and precog? He's also gonna be really hard to actually affect given that he can shift himself into the warp and has been studying it for millennia so he knows how to get around.
 
Well that's that then if not even Cal can really defend link here.

Full power Ahzek is really something else
 
Inb4 pachi just rips people off the strongest character list

Aren't a bunch of touhous canonically superior to her though? She just has such a broad power that people interpret it as "Yukari can do whatever she wants".
 
Wokistan said:
Inb4 pachi just rips people off the strongest character list

Aren't a bunch of touhous canonically superior to her though? She just has such a broad power that people interpret it as "Yukari can do whatever she wants".
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I could do that. But it'd be boring.
 
He did say almost.

Though I'd bet on him if both were stuck in the warp tbh. He does have quite a lot of experience manipulating it where they'd have approximately none.

This means he could potentially win with prep and an ambush, lol
 
Not everyone's a smurf though

He can teleport people directly into the warp, and we said he beat 682 by making it the issue of a daemon like Kairos or something, but besides that nothing's really "smurfed".
 
Wokistan said:
Not everyone's a smurf though

He can teleport people directly into the warp, and we said he beat 682 by making it the issue of a daemon like Kairos or something, but besides that nothing's really "smurfed".
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Okay. What does he generally use? Not arguing for Link, just curious.
 
>Picks Ynnead

I mean... 1-As aren't 4-D. You're not technically wrong.
 
Ahzek has a lot of things, but his precog is what's guaranteed.

From there, he can just use whatever suits the situation best. His most drastic action would probably be to tear apart realspace to create portals to the warp itself.
 
A large part of Ahzek's character is the pursuit of knowledge, and as such he often likes to go for incap when he can so he can preserve the opponent and study them. However, if he forsees that being a thing that can **** him over, he will just destroy them with the deadlier stuff.
 
Ahzek isn't even bad in melee combat but Kharn would beat him assuming no interference by Tzeentch.

Ahzek Ahiman actually hates Tzeentch and wants to supplant him as a new god of chaos (haha yes using the energy of change to defeat change this will work) by finding the Black Library, but Tzeentch is a big fan of Ahriman because he leads to a bunch of interesting outcomes and ironically ends up embodying the values that make up Tzeentch so well. Tzeentch once told Magnus to not kill him personally.
 
It's a fight Ahriman wouldn't stick around to see the outcome in. He knows who Kharn is, and without his magic while he's a great melee combatant himself, Kharn is to melee what he is to warp sorcery.

I have no idea how Tzeentch would interfere with Khorne here, but if Khorne's null works and Ahriman stays to fight for whatever reason, he would die barring outside interference. Which to be fair, he may have some sort of plan set up to give him that.
 
He does, but he's not that much stronger than Tzeentch and Tzeentch's influence is more far reaching. That's why i'm saying he may **** with the null somehow.

It's not something we could assume unless the two end up fighting and that happens in canon though.
 
Wokistan said:
Ahzek Ahiman actually hates Tzeentch and wants to supplant him as a new god of chaos (haha yes using the energy of change to defeat change this will work)
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So he wants to change positions with change itself, thus becoming change. It's like saying:

"Change change with change."
 
It's actually pretty sad tbh. He's such a hopeful guy compared to a lot of the setting, but Hope is another concept that Tzeentch just is.
 
FateAlbane said:
Actually

With Change, change change for change.
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Are you insane? That's too much change! Tzeentch would become superior to Khorne!
 
Tzeentch doesn't actually want to win, because victory is an unchanging state. So Tzeentch will run plans and gambits against itself.
 
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