Adult Sasuke Vs Six Paths Madara

[JohnHendrix212]

So, they should have an "at least' in their rating, but we won't put it because they're new profiles? I don't understand...

 

[AstralKing7]

Meh I probably didn't explain it good enough.

Ask Tata he is knowledgeable staff member for Naruto

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

What???? Lmao please make more sense bro?? Jigen is the body. How is he not 5B that's like saying Naruto is not 5B cause he is using Kurama power Please understand where u are heading here

You make me laugh sometimes. Naruto has Six Paths Sage Mode. Of course he is 5B without Kurama. Also I will reverse the question back to you. Was Naruto the same Level when he was the vessel for Kurama before BM Or KCM? Of course not. Possessing hte body of another doesn't mean the body is the same level.

@ NotCensored Momoshiki is also far faster and physically stronger than her by a mile and has better AP showings like knocking out SPSM Naruto in his Kurama Avatar with a Casual TBB

Kaguya could destroy the chakra avatars casually too and without a TBB anyway. Momo is not physically stronger than her or faster.

Teen Sasuke =/= Adult Sasuke, Sasuke was rather unfazed after reading a scroll Kaguya herself wrote stating that Momo and Kin were the greater threat she was prepping for in fact he was actually expecting it and stated his suspicions were proven correct lol it just means Adult Sasuke is stronger now and isn't exactly worried about Kaguya Level threats.

Adult Sasuke is more calm and more skillful but even he would have made comparisons of power when he met Momo. He didn't.

All in all what I am trying to say is:

• There are no direct comparisons and nobody should deny that.
• Certain things make you stronger in Naruto. For example the Juubi, the Chakra Fruit, being an Otstsuki who absorbs chakra from worlds like "Jigen" who absorbed chakra from the Juubi creature. Training has a limit.

Anyway I will make another thread for discussion but the scaling chain as it goes for Kaguya is not like that.

Also even if we consider Sasuke "stronger", what are his counters for Limbos and Madara's Regen/Immortality?

 

[AstralKing7]

????what??? It's Naruto a feats man. He Naruto is using Kurama a power he will scale. If Jigen is using Karma Seal he will scale and get the rating. Simple as that

 

[AstralKing7]

Limbo? Regen?? Sasuke literally handles that with ease. He can literally BFR Madara or absorb his chakra or even seal him

Sasuke is stronger there is nothing to consider

 

[AstralKing7]

Kaguya got her lights almost punched out by Naruto. She isn't physically stronger than anyone in Boruto. Kaguya for a moment couldn't over power Narutos chakra fist. Momo damn near strangled Kurama to death

Kaguya has only destroyed Susanno never Kurama

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

????what??? It's Naruto a feats man. He Naruto is using Kurama a power he will scale. If Jigen is using Karma Seal he will scale and get the rating. Simple as that

Isshiki possessing Jigen is who gets the rating not the "normal" Jigen, if you get me...

Limbo? Regen?? Sasuke literally handles that with ease. He can literally BFR Madara or absorb his chakra or even seal him

Sasuke is stronger there is nothing to consider

You downplay a lot here.

• He can not seal him without the Sage's seals.
• Madara absorbs chakra too.
• Everything Sasuke knows Madara knows it too.

Naruto is not DB.

Kaguya got her lights almost punched out by Naruto. She isn't physically stronger than anyone in Boruto. Kaguya for a moment couldn't over power Narutos chakra fist. Momo damn near strangled Kurama to death

Kaguya has only destroyed Susanno never Kurama

Kurama and PS were shown equal at VOTE. She would have destroyed Kurama avatar as easily. Kaguya didn't want to kill him back then if you remember or waste chakra. About Momo in which panel are referring?

 

[AstralKing7]

....dude do u not know what cbibaku tensei is?? He doesn't need the sages seal lmao

So Madara absorbs chakra guess who absorbs chakra better and on the level of Hag? Sasuke

Sasuke stomps madara. Madara has never learned how to open dimensions with rinnegan.

Kaguya wanted to kill Naruto lmao what are u talking about? She literally thought she killed him with the AKABs when she dimension dumped him

Jigen key with Isshiki is called Otsutsuki transformation. It's still Jigen profile. So it's Jigen rating

 

[Lop222]

astralking kaguya first wanted her chakra back not kill them https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFEfmqBW4AAYEuH?format=jpg&name=medium

if she was bloodlusted in beggining she would have killed naruto and sasuke when she appeared behind them and started to cry instead she choose to absorb their chakra.

so she wasnt going all out when she fought narutos chakra fist.

momoshiki also strangled 50% Kurama. remember momoshiki absorbed 50% ninetails chakra of naruto.before they fought. meaning momoshiki strangled a weakend kurama

 

[AstralKing7]

That's anime only statement about 50 percent Kurama


Naruot punchhed Kaguyas lights out after she wanted to kill them. So it doesn't even matter anymore. They scale to her.

Also u don't know which punch I'm talking about.

Her appearing behind them bloodlusted doesn't mean she was going to one shot them. If she was bloodlusted she would have used hax to kill them which wouldn't effect the scaling in the first place

 

[Lop222]

That's anime only statement about 50 percent Kurama

Still this doesnt matter since the anime revealed how much ninetails chakra Momoshiki absorbed.

Even if you go to manga and movie. Momoshiki was absorbing ninetails chakra from naruto for too long, since during that time Sasuke was talking with Boruto and kages and was making some plans.

so that 50% absorbed ninteails chakra was hinted.

also which punch are you talking about sent scan. Kaguya was suppressed against naruto and sasuke until chapter 684

 

[AstralKing7]

I'm talking about when Naruto used steam release. Kaguya has stopped being casual. She didn't even care if Sasuke fell into lava and she left Sasuke in another dimension so she could kill Naruto

 

[Lop222]

no Kaguya separated naruto and sasuke so she could absorb their chakra.

bloodlusted Kaguya would have sended Sasuke to acid dimension and let him burn to death.

after kaguya choose to send sasuke to sand dimension black zetsu mentioned that kaguya wants her chakra from naruto

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFEpP-PXkAAHbCx?format=png&name=small

 

[Devils_May_Die]

Kaguya most of the battle was just "lost" changing dimensions with no presented "struggle" whatsoever. She is the last character you ever want to downplay.

Naruto & Sasuke fought Momo together. And Kaguya too. Difference is that Naruto did the heavy lifting.

Since Madara was suppositely gaining power closer to Kaguya's (who is of the purest chakra being by eating the "fruit") and has the truth seeking balls (which nullifies anything sasuke can hit him with) and he can react to Hiraishin speeds.

I'm very aware Sasuke has good hax too. But Madara just has that much more raw power due to actually having all of the Bijuu in him (exception of Kurama)

So this battle is basically Sasuke fighting Niaruto.

And we all know Sasuke is nowhere near Naruto's level. And he emphasizes it many times that Naruto is the "man" to get the job done if no one else can.

Madara for these reasons.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Saske can solo Naruto, easily

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Grace is over, Sasuke won

 

[M3X_2.0]

Can this be added?

 

[JohnHendrix212]

Kaguya most of the battle was just "lost" changing dimensions with no presented "struggle" whatsoever. She is the last character you ever want to downplay.

Naruto & Sasuke fought Momo together. And Kaguya too. Difference is that Naruto did the heavy lifting.

Since Madara was suppositely gaining power closer to Kaguya's (who is of the purest chakra being by eating the "fruit") and has the truth seeking balls (which nullifies anything sasuke can hit him with) and he can react to Hiraishin speeds.

I'm very aware Sasuke has good hax too. But Madara just has that much more raw power due to actually having all of the Bijuu in him (exception of Kurama)

So this battle is basically Sasuke fighting Niaruto.

And we all know Sasuke is nowhere near Naruto's level. And he emphasizes it many times that Naruto is the "man" to get the job done if no one else can.

Madara for these reasons.

Boi, that's a load of nonsense.

Madara was gaining power closer to the Sage, not Kaguya. Truth Seeking Balls don't work on Sasuke, since he also has Six Paths Chakra. Madara can react To Minato's attack speed after he Hiraishin:d, not the teleportation itself.

Naruto fought Kaguya longer than Sasuke because he got BFR'd. Naruto and Sasuke displayed equally against Momoshiki.

Sasuke already blitzed Madara.

No, this battle isn't the same as Sasuke fighting Naruto. And Sasuke isn't "nowhere near" Naruto's level, their equals as adults. As teens, Naruto edges out by a slight margin.

Sasuke stomps Madara.

 

[Lop222]

Kaguya most of the battle was just "lost" changing dimensions with no presented "struggle" whatsoever. She is the last character you ever want to downplay.

Naruto & Sasuke fought Momo together. And Kaguya too. Difference is that Naruto did the heavy lifting.

Since Madara was suppositely gaining power closer to Kaguya's (who is of the purest chakra being by eating the "fruit") and has the truth seeking balls (which nullifies anything sasuke can hit him with) and he can react to Hiraishin speeds.

I'm very aware Sasuke has good hax too. But Madara just has that much more raw power due to actually having all of the Bijuu in him (exception of Kurama)

So this battle is basically Sasuke fighting Niaruto.

And we all know Sasuke is nowhere near Naruto's level. And he emphasizes it many times that Naruto is the "man" to get the job done if no one else can.

Madara for these reasons.

Boi, that's a load of nonsense.
Madara was gaining power closer to the Sage, not Kaguya. Truth Seeking Balls don't work on Sasuke, since he also has Six Paths Chakra. Madara can react To Minato's attack speed after he Hiraishin:d, not the teleportation itself.

Naruto fought Kaguya longer than Sasuke because he got BFR'd. Naruto and Sasuke displayed equally against Momoshiki.

Sasuke already blitzed Madara.

No, this battle isn't the same as Sasuke fighting Naruto. And Sasuke isn't "nowhere near" Naruto's level, their equals as adults. As teens, Naruto edges out by a slight margin.

Sasuke stomps Madara.

Sasuke already blitzed 1 rinnegan Madara. not 2 rinnegan 1 rinnesharingan madara

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Can this be added?

Yeap

 

[Kidkinsey]

Can this be added?

Yeap

plz no madara has alot of losses already

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

Being the same eye doesn't mean that both persons can use it in the same way. Nagato had years of training and battles with the Rinnegan, Madara only had it when he was about to die and then in the war, where he didn't had time to learn everything, he used Limbo, Tendou and black receivers, basically
However, I remember that Kakashi and Guy had a theory of why Obito wasn't using all the paths, and it was because they are known techniques for them, and it would be a waste of chakra since they know how it works. Sasuke and Madara could be a similar case, even more now that Sasuke had decades with Rinnegan

As concerns the first paragraph...I believe it's revealed in Naruto Chapter 606 (according to the Naruto Fandom Wiki!) that Madara taught the Six Paths technique, along with numerous Uchiha kinjutsu and other such things, to Obito shortly before his death, who then taught it to Nagato after Yahiko was killed.

The second paragrah is correct to a degree. Sasuke has used Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, and chakra absorption numerous times since getting his Rinnegan eye--but it's the more esoteric ones, like the Human Path and Asura Path, that Sasuke has yet to display. The abilities of the Human Path are irrelevant, the Sharingan accomplishes the same thing via genjutsu without killing the person involved.