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Across the Mario-Verse [2-A God Tier Upgrades & Cosmology]

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Mephistus said:
This blog outlines why the cosmology should hold infinite universes and why some people should scale.

If we have character profiles for Luigi, Peach, or Bowser eventually being made for their paper counterparts then this tier upgrade would apply to them as well with a Pure Hearts key.
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Makes sense. I mean, Dimentio's profile states If Dimentio had not been defeated by the Four Heroes of Light, he would have destroyed all worlds and possibilities in the Mario universe.
 
I would agree. Most of this is sound

Only thing I'd say is Dream Depot should probably be mentioned at the least due to how important dreams are to cosmology, given it connects various parts of the cosmology involving dreams across the games.

Also maybe the Dream Machine from Super Mario Bros 2 that sustains good dreams. These opinions of mine don't change the fact that I agree: I think it they're just some smaller, but important things that could be added to fill in smaller gaps given Mario Party 5 is mentioned (Dream Depot), and the stuff with Wart and SMB2 is too (Dream Machine).
 
As someone who has been hearing discussions about this, it has my approval as well.
 
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I agree. Been in the 2-A Mario believer for a while. The infinite stuff is legit in LM2 and i dont see why not.
 
Armorchompy said:
I dunno. The reasoning makes sense, it seems a bit weird to update a whole verse based on what is essentially just an endless side mode of a game. Neutral I guess.
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Thinking on this, I would personally prefer if 2-A remained just a possibly or a likely. I'm not going to push for it, Mario cosmology isn't something I have a stake in, but I would prefer if it was listed that way.
 
Armorchompy said:
Thinking on this, I would personally prefer if 2-A remained just a possibly or a likely. I'm not going to push for it, Mario cosmology isn't something I have a stake in, but I would prefer if it was listed that way.
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So, is that a weak agree or still neutral for now?
 
Possibly/Likely 2-A seems okay, although some aspects could be interpreted in other ways (endless dream could refer to a dream that will exist forever as opposed to an infinite size dream, and games like Dream Team show that multiple dreams can coexist in the same overall space as shown by the Mt. Pajamaja Pi’illos and how Big Massif’s dream exists within dreamy Wakeport, which somewhat contradicts the idea of an individual world for every dreamer). But since there is an endless ghost count and endless is a synonym for infinite, it seems okay.
 
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Unless you wanna bring up some whacky higher dimensional stuff in here we ain't throwing an "at least" on the 2-A rating.
 
I agree with the proposals, most of the stuff is already accepted, and the overall confirmation of the size of the cosmology being 2-A seems quite simple to accept.
 
I was gonna bring in Mario's Cutout ability to see if we could get a higher result, but I'll save that for another thread.
 
I don't think the cutout stuff would matter anyway since I don't think we could apply it to dreams or say that the destruction of all worlds that the Chaos Heart was gonna pull off extended to whatever the cutout stuff would bring.
 
Dust_Collector said:
I don't think the cutout stuff would matter anyway since I don't think we could apply it to dreams or say that the destruction of all worlds that the Chaos Heart was gonna pull off extended to whatever the cutout stuff would bring.
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Just hear me out on this in a future thread, okay? I have a few ideas in mind with this.
 
Bobsican said:
By current tiering standards, "At least" is only used when there's substantial proof to claim a character could be in an higher tier.

For here it'd be Low 1-C, so unless you want to argue for tier 1 Mario, I'd just stick to regular 2-A.
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Yeah, I'm saving the whole Low 1-C for another thread.
 
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