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Acnologia doesn't have average resistance to anything though. He's literally been shown to be immune to every type of magic.
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Acnologia vs Ainz
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I heard someone say Ainz should be Star level since he defeated Nidhogg who ate stars.
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I would rather not use another verse's mechanics as evidence even though it is acknowledged that Overlord is heavily based on D&D, it clearly has some differences that should restrict you from using that assumption.Yobobojojo said:
Were those resistances actual resistances to the concept or simply "tiered resistance" like the Skeleton Dragons?
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Yeah but I think each Tier would have to have feats for it to be supported. Like, if something is called immune but then dies to that thing then it's not immune. Acno could still be effected by conceptual or super time stop that works on infinite speed or immeasurables but normal time stop won't work.
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I would rather not use another verse's mechanics as evidence even though it is acknowledged that Overlord is heavily based on D&D, it clearly has some differences that should restrict you from using that assumption.
Were those resistances actual resistances to the concept or simply "tiered resistance" like the Skeleton Dragons?
Tiered resistance, tho it's possible it'll carry over with VE
But Ainz kinda already won, so...
Were those resistances actual resistances to the concept or simply "tiered resistance" like the Skeleton Dragons?
Tiered resistance, tho it's possible it'll carry over with VE
But Ainz kinda already won, so...
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Do I really need to? I don't have good memory on Overlord as I haven't read it for a while but i'm still certain that many of his fights consist of him fighting solo or with the guardians ( Whom can resist his despair aura ) The fight with the sunlight scripture in the beginning of the series, the fight against clementine, the raiders of the tomb, even in his fight with hamsuke, he didn't even bother using despair aura ( fear ) until he didn't want to fight anymore.Maraderchik said:
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1. Acno's never been paralysed by time stop what are you talking about?
2. It was the punch that killed him, not the magic in the punch
2. It was the punch that killed him, not the magic in the punch
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Well yea, you need to. I can't really remember many fights that included Ainz himself, and his aura works on Guardians pretty fine (it was in first vol/episode).OpMasada said:
In fight against scripture he was with Albedo AND with villagers/Gazef, then he's capture scripture members.
In the fight against Clem he was with Nabe and Hamske and can't practice his fighting ability.... Tomb riders, he can't practice and there a problem with dead experemental subject.
Basically he NEVER be without some escort or in some sort of situation when he can use Despair Aura.
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Lucy and co trapped his dragon form inside fairy sphere (which is a time stop spell) and when they put enough power into it acno became unable to move (both his human and dragon forms) after which natsu conjured a massive fist of fire and hit him with it, killing him. re read the fight that is literally an abridged version of what happened.
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>His aura works on guardians
It was implied to have only worked because of his staff, which he pretty much never carries in character.
>He was with albedo and villagers
No, he was far from the villagers, only albedo was with them.
>In the fight against clem he was with nabe and hamsuke
No, like before, he was away from them
>He can't practice
He stopped caring about practice and just killed all of them with magic. No reason for him to not do it then.
>Basically he never in a situation where he can activate it.
Vol 13, instant deaths the demi-humans that used to be fighting Remedios. No reason for him not to do it then.
It was implied to have only worked because of his staff, which he pretty much never carries in character.
>He was with albedo and villagers
No, he was far from the villagers, only albedo was with them.
>In the fight against clem he was with nabe and hamsuke
No, like before, he was away from them
>He can't practice
He stopped caring about practice and just killed all of them with magic. No reason for him to not do it then.
>Basically he never in a situation where he can activate it.
Vol 13, instant deaths the demi-humans that used to be fighting Remedios. No reason for him not to do it then.
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>It was implied to have only worked because of his staff, which he pretty much never carries in character.
Sure, so should he turn on-off it every single time he take staff in his hand? He just can't normally walk around Nazarick with it turn on, because there maids who's level 1-60.
>No, he was far from the villagers, only albedo was with them.
Same. And moreover he take staff with him. And lastly he's take scripture members as experimental subject.
"I have a report to deliver. The commander of the Slaine Theocracy's Sunlight Scripture who we captured has been incarcerated in the Frozen Prison. We will extract information from him with the help of the Special IntelligenceGathering Officer."
>No, like before, he was away from them
Right, right. But there one more thing besides his allie. He'd just want to torture her.
>He stopped caring about practice and just killed all of them with magic. No reason for him to not do it then.
He didn't kill them. Besides Archie.
>Vol 13, instant deaths the demi-humans that used to be fighting Remedios. No reason for him not to do it then.
And accidentally kill potential witnesses of his great deeds?
Again, there just never be a good chance to use Despair Aura.
Sure, so should he turn on-off it every single time he take staff in his hand? He just can't normally walk around Nazarick with it turn on, because there maids who's level 1-60.
>No, he was far from the villagers, only albedo was with them.
Same. And moreover he take staff with him. And lastly he's take scripture members as experimental subject.
"I have a report to deliver. The commander of the Slaine Theocracy's Sunlight Scripture who we captured has been incarcerated in the Frozen Prison. We will extract information from him with the help of the Special IntelligenceGathering Officer."
>No, like before, he was away from them
Right, right. But there one more thing besides his allie. He'd just want to torture her.
>He stopped caring about practice and just killed all of them with magic. No reason for him to not do it then.
He didn't kill them. Besides Archie.
>Vol 13, instant deaths the demi-humans that used to be fighting Remedios. No reason for him not to do it then.
And accidentally kill potential witnesses of his great deeds?
Again, there just never be a good chance to use Despair Aura.
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It technically is relevant.FDrybob said:
But indeed it does not matter because the match has already been concluded.
@Marad I made a reply but it didn't register for some reason, so to keep things short and hopefully not continue with more debate as others have pointed out should stop:
There were no potential witnesses, and ainz had not even remotely considered it.
Never having been a good chance to use despair aura does not prove anything about ainz "turning it on right away"
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Can we get this locked yet? I mean yeah you can disagree with the results all you like but, it's over and added so there's no point letting people still argue.
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Ainz has good skills like grasp heart he should be able to insta kill
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@Gilga
This has already been argued, Ainz only wins because of TGoALiD. Everything else gets ignored/eaten.
This has already been argued, Ainz only wins because of TGoALiD. Everything else gets ignored/eaten.
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Acno can't eat grasp heart nor does he ignore it.
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You're telling me the dragon immune to instant death magic can't ignore instant death magic? The only thing that happens is Acno getting stunned by the failed spell where Ainz teleports away to figure out how to win, eventually goes with TGoALiD which is the only thing in his arsenal that lets him touch Acno. If you want to continue, we can do so on a wall, this needs to be locked asap.
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Zerefs death magic is quite bad compared to Ainz'.
Let me clarify something here. In the game (YGGDRASIL) magic resistance and death resistance are both different thing since death spells aren't considered as magic by the devs. mag. res. can increase through equipments unlike death res. you can only increase it by having a higher level to the one who casted it upon you ( also time spells ) and also from racial class or some special item effect. So this is the reason why ainz stomps him.KaiserReinhardt said:
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