A Guy In a Prison vs A Militant Atheist (Dovahkiin vs Nanashi)

[Hl3_or_bust]

The Dovahkii vs Nanashi
>Both High 6-A

>Speed=

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

What's Dovy's answer to 2-A immortality?

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Thu'um

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

What can it do to Dadga?

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

It kills Nanashi far beyond Dagda's ability to res him

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

...How?

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Low 1-C >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-A

 

[TranscendHunger]

How is Thu'um Low 1-C?

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Thu'um isn't Low 1-C hax.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

what tier even is it then?

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Depends on the Master of the Voice using it, but the more Hax-Aligned Thu'um are more like unquantifiable Information Manipulation that affects shit on a conceptual level.

 

[TranscendHunger]

Couldn't he use Thu'um to use Plot Manipulation? In the same way a Thu'um user did in the Sermons of Vehk.

 

[TranscendHunger]

"BARFOK, Maid of Planes, who appeared as a winged human with lick-encrusted spear, had the powers of Event Denouement. Battles fought against her would always end in victory for Barfok, because she could shape outcomes by singing. Four Chimeri villages and two more Dwemeri strongholds were destroyed by her decision enforcement. Vivec had to stuff her mouth with his milk finger to keep her from singing Veloth into ruin."

 

[Ultima_Reality]

This is Fate Manipulation, not Plothax, and I am not sure if the Dovahkiin can do it.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

No it's bootleg plot manipulatioj

 

[TranscendHunger]

Event Denouement is pretty much Plot Manipulation. With Denouement meaning the final part of a narrative.

 

[TranscendHunger]

Although this doesn't matter if Dovahkiin cannot do it in the first place.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Tonal magic has been shown to affect the Heart of Lorkhan, which a bunch of Low 1-Cs (or High 1-Bs, since Trinimac) couldn't do anything about it. It doesn't have the AP for sure, but its info/conceptual manip should work at that level at least.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

can`t dova just send nanashi to oblivion i am pretty sure it above dagdas paygrade to bring nanash back from it

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Tonal magic has been shown to affect the Heart of Lorkhan, which a bunch of Low 1-Cs (or High 1-Bs, since Trinimac) couldn't do anything to it. It doesn't have the AP for sure, but its info/conceptual manip should work at that level at least.

No. The true, abstract form of the Heart of Lorkhan is a fundamental aspect of the Mundus which can't be manipulated even by the Ruling Kings of the Aurbis, what you see in Morrowind is just a physical shell held in place by a bunch of Tonal Enchantments made by Kagrenac.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

So Tonal magic has a variable hax potency depending on the user?

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Yes, King Anumaril's Staff of Towers uses a far more potent version of Tonal Manipulation than some random Dwemer, for example.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

i vote for Dova via BFR to oblivion

 

[Ultima_Reality]

The Dovahkiin can't banish everything to Oblivion, it applies only to Daedra.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Ultima's just there, spawn-killing every argument for Dovakhiin.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Camper

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Ultima is making me happy. Killing the wank.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

...how can Nanashi even be atheist if he knows for a fact that god exists, given that he literally killed him.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

are you really questioning a dumb joke?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

If you know anything about me, it's that I'm in love with semantics.

 

[Wokistan]

Inb4 religious debate

 

[TranscendHunger]

To get back on topic. I see no way for Dovah to win.

 

[TranscendHunger]

Therefore I vote for Nanashi. Dovahkiin cannot get past immortality. He doesn't have any resistance to conceptual abilities or erasure on his profile.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Nanashi FRA

 

[Waria_Kambang]

Would the Dawnbreaker works? Nanashi is a reanimated corpse.I would imagine the Dawnbreaker would be quite effective. I

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Yes.

 

[Ionliosite]

Nanashi FRA

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

...how can Nanashi even be atheist if he knows for a fact that god exists, given that he literally killed him.

"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that You exist, and so therefore, by Your own arguments, You don't. QED."

"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic