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Some people were saying it was PIS, a guy thinks that Gohan was actually more than 2x, someone else thinks 2x is only enough when it is a a continuous blast, etc.
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Yeah, he canonically got negged by a 2x gap, so you wanted to know if 2x would be neough in versus thread or if that only happened because plot (aka PIS).DragonEmperor23 said:No? Not only am I the one who made the thread, but it even says in the title that it was about Cell's regen being negated by AP of different values. The main topic wasn't PIS.
That's a bold thing to claim, considering Chrysalis is anywhere from ten to tens of times stronger than Cell based on Celestia's tiny part of her power. I'm seriously doubting Vegito is that much stronger than Buu. Even still, Kid Buu is absolutely not 10s of times stronger than fat Buu, and he was exhausting his regen.Frieza force soldier 100 said:You do have a point. Even Super Buu's Regenerationn started to fail after repeatedly being blown to bits and pounded into oblivion by Vegito, at one point failing completely and leaving a massive hole in his chest which he didn't even notice at first. Luckily for Cell though, the gap in between power for him and ex queen Chrysalis is nowhere near as big as Buu and Vegito's gap. All of his attacks should be able to cause at least some damage to Chrysalis. This, coupled with his large versatility and having an advantage in just about everything but AP, the one area she has him handily beaten in, leads me to believe that with time, patience, a great deal of effort, and some high difficulty, he could eventually pull off a win. His biggest problem will be his temper if he loses his cool.
Did people disagree? I don't really recall that. Anyways, what LightBuster said is true. I think Cell's regen would eventuhally be exhausted even if he's not vaporized. Also, I just realized 1 kilofoe isn't necessarily Cell's durability level, as Gohan's attack did vaporize him. And Gohan's fatherson kamehameha was definitely not 4x stronger than Cell's Kamehameha, so Cell should be vaporized by any blast from Chrysalis.DragonEmperor23 said:My bad on the millions part, that was an exaggeration. If you're saying that because of Cell being vaped by Gohan, then the blast only being 4X doesn't come from anything. As you said and was mentioned on the thread I made, the blasts are much higher than someone's regular AP in Dragon Ball. You said on the thread that his regen is only effective against people comparable or weaker than him. Since so many people disagreed with you, you should probably discuss that there.
so QC can't beat Cell his ap/Haxes.GokuSparkle said:Did you read what I just wrote?
Doesn't it only work if the thing inside his head isn't destroyed? I know that didn't happen with Goku's kamehameha, but Toriyama stated it was a plot hole.A Stoned Orc said:The only way to really burn through Cell's regen is to have an attack that has the AOE to completely swallow his entire body. Otherwise, if so much as Cell's hand, a finger, anything gets out, you have Cell.
Do you have the link to where Toriyama stated "plot hole", because I can't find it? I personally subscribe to the idea that he can simply change the location of his core very quickly.GokuSparkle said:Doesn't it only work if the thing inside his head isn't destroyed? I know that didn't happen with Goku's kamehameha, but Toriyama stated it was a plot hole.A Stoned Orc said:The only way to really burn through Cell's regen is to have an attack that has the AOE to completely swallow his entire body. Otherwise, if so much as Cell's hand, a finger, anything gets out, you have Cell.