90s Spider-Man AKA Fox Kids Spider-Man Feat Discussion

[Dark-Carioca]

Something worth adding for both Goblins' future profiles is their second glider which can go twice as high and four times as fast as stated in the Hobgoblin's debut episode

 

[Lonkitt]

I think a calc we could get done just via some searches which I personally feel like I would be bad at doing would be Red Skull's claim on how Electro can control all of the electrcity in the entire world. Plus this claim, thanks to the further events, doesn't seem to be a boast. We would just need to consider the time period and know how much electrcity the world had at that state. No idea how hard that is to find tho.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

"In 2016, the world's electricity consumption amounted to approximately 21.8 trillion kilowatt hours."

This also helps: https://yearbook.enerdata.net/total-energy/world-energy-production.html

 

[Lonkitt]

The episode with Electro, going by release date, would be in 1997. I think this would be a fair year to choose.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Another feat I remembered is Rhino shaking the space shuttle in the symbiote's debut episode.

That should give us higher levels of strength compared to him picking up an elevator or flipping an armored van.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

I could only find for 1997 the US energy consumption

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=28592

94 quadrillion BTU or 9.9076e16 joules (23.679732314 megatons or City level)

And that's for the US alone!

 

[Lonkitt]

Damn...so we at least know that Electro is City level. Not bad, not bad. Hopefully we can find the full value.

 

[Lonkitt]

As a reminder, for any calcs done on the feats here, please link them in this thread.

 

[Bowser-us]

Counter-Earth Venom/Carnage should have fusionism and better Regenerationn

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Yeah, they do fuse at one point and every time they blow up they heal from a puddle. Considering the humans inside are as viscuous as the symbiotes (Spidey mentions in the first episode that they're different from before but we've already discussed that they should get different profiles) there's probably more we can add since other than Sound nothing does anything to them.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Here's the calc

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...octor_Doom_drops_a_mountain_on_the_MAU_heroes

 

[Lonkitt]

Nice work and thanks for calcing it. The results are pretty great too.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Did some research on early Spidey feats

In The Alien Symbiote (Part 1), Spidey tries his new strength by lifting the back end of a fire engine, then he claims that he used to struggle lifting a Volkswagen.

Using this model, contemporary with the show, we can determine that Spidey is easily in Class 5.

Using this fire engine, Symbiote Spidey enters at least Class 10, if not Class 25, increasing his strength tenfold at least, though other engines can weigh as much as nearly 40 tonnes (Class 50).

I think maybe we could separate Spider-Man (TAS) in various keys such as early and late series Spidey... Or we could ignore these since we'll find better lifting strength feats for sure.

 

[Lonkitt]

Personally, I think it's much easier to ignore a Late to Early key for Spidey in this series. Besides, the any differences there may be are much less noticeable, unlike other characters with keys in regards to certain parts of their series'. Although, a Symbiote Key would make sense.

We also have, like, a ton of explosion feets to look at.

 

[Wagdawgwag]

Personally, I think it's much easier to ignore a Late to Early key for Spidey in this series. Besides, the any differences there may be are much less noticeable, unlike other characters with keys in regards to certain parts of their series'. Although, a Symbiote Key would make sense.
We also have, like, a ton of explosion feets to look at.

What about Man-Spider? Is there enough there to justify a key?

 

[Lonkitt]

Oh, definitely. Thanks for reminding me of that, it would make sense as a key. Plus, in the final two parter arc, we saw an alternate version of Spider-Man that never cured his mutation. When he went in Man-Spider form, he actually overpowered Spider-Man and Scarlet Spider at the same time.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

I'd say so

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Another calc, this time for Spider-Man Unlimited https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ine_Men_stop_a_shuttle_(Spider-Man_Unlimited)

 

[Lonkitt]

Another calc, this time for Spider-Man Unlimited https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ine_Men_stop_a_shuttle_(Spider-Man_Unlimited)

It's just like you predicted in the rought calc. High Hypersonic and MCB. I should probably make a separate thread for Unlimited.

 

[Lonkitt]

Bump

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Spider-Man TAS Writer's Guide, offering many interesting pieces of info (such as Spidey's age, 19 and even Rhino's hide being tough enough to resist 1 ton of TNT) http://www.knowitalljoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Spiderman-Animated-Series-Writers-Guide.pdf

And here's the script for the pilot http://www.knowitalljoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Spiderman-Night-of-Lizard-Script.pdf

 

[Lonkitt]

1 Ton of TNT. That's solid building level. I know that Symbiote Spidey definitely scales. IIRC Base Spidey should scale as well.

EDIT: Just for simplicity's sake, can you screenshot those two claims you found within the guide?

 

[Hellbeast1]

Building level gang rise up

 

[Dark-Carioca]

We get an origin for Rhino, he's Smythe's creation here. And then there's the age bit

 

[Lonkitt]

Thanks

 

[Dark-Carioca]

We can see at least Building level to City Block consistency with stuff like the Spider Slayers, the third of which (The Scorpion) could one shot tanks with its lasers which Spidey withstands in the tie-in comics for TAS, though maybe the comics will have their own profiles.

 

[Hellbeast1]

What would one shotting tanks be I wonder

 

[Dark-Carioca]

At least Large Building level for the M1 Abrams tank I linked in my previous post, but likely higher given the Oscorp tanks seem bigger and also more futuristic, thus are probably tougher.

 

[Lonkitt]

Didn't know the 90s Series had tie-in comics. Might be worth checking out.

 

[Wagdawgwag]

Didn't know the 90s Series had tie-in comics. Might be worth checking out.

The thing about these tie-in comics is that they're relatively short in terms of run.

X-Men and Spider-Man lasted fifteen issues each, and Unlimited Vol 2 only lasted five.

 

[Lonkitt]

I would ask why Unlimited got noticeably less comics, but...I think we both know why.

 

[Hellbeast1]

Yes

Spiderverse killed it all off in the 5th issue/s

 

[Lonkitt]

Actually I was gonna say because Unlimited was badly received and overall I doubt a ton of people at Marvel cared enough for it to give it more comics.

 

[Hellbeast1]

Twas a joke

 

[Lonkitt]

Ah, my mistake.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Meanwhile TAS got two tie-in comics: The Adventures of Spider-Man and Spider-Man Adventures

 

[Wagdawgwag]

Meanwhile TAS got two tie-in comics: The Adventures of Spider-Man and Spider-Man Adventures

There's also the British Spectacular book.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Never read that one so I can't comment on it

 

[Dark-Carioca]

The Spider-Man Unlimited calc was accepted, so we can start making profiles for at least Spidey and the symbiotes.

Shall I, or does anyone else want the... honor?

 

[Hellbeast1]

Wait would that be the Machine men one