8-C Tournament Match 10 (Ermes Costello vs Lux Arcadia)

[Moritzva]

Again, that has nothing to do.

Yes, it does, for the reasons described above. Ionliosite, saying "That has nothing to do with it" is the equivalent of "I am right because I am right".

 

[Ionliosite]

A Slime can get pass the forcefield, a Stand can too.

No, it means this.

 

[Moritzva]

A Slime can get pass the forcefield, a Stand can too.

No, it means this.

There isn't even a C > B here since the comparison is apples to oranges. That's just C > A because B > A. Utter fallacy.

 

[Ionliosite]

If a non-physical entity such as a Slime could, what stops Stands from doing it? You still haven't explained that, only saying "they aren't intangible all the time" which is besides the point since even then they are still non-physical.

 

[Moritzva]

Stands are selectively intangible and nearly 100% of the time are not, not when they touch something. Burden of proof is on you to say otherwise, as I have evidence of... literally every JoJo fight as my proof.

 

[Ionliosite]

And I already posted the quote proving a non-physical entity can bypass the forcefields.

 

[Moritzva]

And I already posted the quote proving a non-physical entity can bypass the forcefields.

And I provided proof that JoJo stands are basically never intangible when they are hitting something. Ever.

So your point is moot, since unless you can prove otherwise, it's a stomp.

 

[Ionliosite]

Again, intangibility has nothing at all to do, otherwise a friggin SLIME woulnd't have been able to bypass the barrier.

 

[Moritzva]

Again, intangibility has nothing at all to do, otherwise a friggin SLIME woulnd't have been able to bypass the barrier.

For one, non-physical and intangible are synonyms.


For two, again, saying 'slime' over and over doesn't dispute the fact that Stands lack non-physical characteristics just about every time they touch something.

 

[Ionliosite]

If we by that logic and say slimes AREN'T non-physical, then a friggin slime bypassed the forcefield just because, which means this barrier is even more irrelevant than originally said, since Kiss can bypass it just because.

 

[Moritzva]

If we by that logic and say slimes AREN'T non-physical, then a friggin slime bypassed the forcefield just because, which means this barrier is even more irrelevant than originally said, since Kiss can bypass it just because.

What logic says the slimes aren't nonphysical? Where are you getting this from?

The argument is simple. Find any evidence of Stands using nonphysical qualities in contact, since these Stands love to grab and toss buildings, punch humans, bend metal bars...

 

[Ionliosite]

That's my point. The Slime is touching the weapon, adhering to the Drag-Ride, etc. which means it is as non-physical as a Stand is shown, and since you say Stands aren't non-physical most of the time, then this Slimes aren't either.

 

[Moritzva]

That's my point. The Slime is touching the weapon, adhering to the Drag-Ride, etc. which means it is as non-physical as a Stand is shown, and since you say Stands aren't non-physical most of the time, then this Slimes aren't either.

...Then what in the world bypasses the barrier?

It's not explained on the profile at all and seems to be nigh-entirely arbitrary and random.

 

[Ionliosite]

Something non-physical, I have explained that over and over again on this thread.

 

[Moritzva]

And we just went over how Stands really aren't nonphysical in most moments.

 

[Ionliosite]

And we also went over how in that case the slime that bypassed the barrier ins't non-physical either.

 

[Moritzva]

So then the barriers are bypassed by physical attacks.

 

[Ionliosite]

At this point we aren't even having the same conversation.

Both the Slime and the Stand are equally non-physical (the Stands even more so, argubly), and the Slimes bypass the barrier, so Stands should too.

 

[Moritzva]

"Nonphysical can bypass the barrier."

"The punches aren't nonphysical."

"They can bypass the barrier, then."

"So physical punches can bypass the barrier?"

"Nonphysical can bypass the barrier."

 

[Ionliosite]

Yeah, basically LOL

 

[Moritzva]

Do you see where the jump in logic occured?

 

[Ionliosite]

Yeah, we keep saying the same arguments over and over again, and the other refueses to take them.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

The idea of "you can't touch it, but it can touch you" is not that complicated, the same way as drawing a sword fast and walking fast being different things isn't.