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8-B Tournament Round 3, Match 1: Optimus Prime (2007 DS Game) vs Ken Kaneki

Razor said:
Thats not how it works.

I'm not familiar with TG but is there confirmation that the RC Cells got transferred? But even then, alr lets say kaneki is 34 tons, optimus stomps someone who can stomp groups of 34 tonners like kaneki, so he'd still be massively above him
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As Optimus tramples the characters of 34 tons, so Kaneki tramples the character of 17 tons, then becoming stronger several times in the same key.
Either we should just agree on the difference of AP by 2 times, or we rest on the fact that they will not be able to count
 
NikHelton said:
As Optimus tramples the characters of 34 tons, so Kaneki tramples the character of 17 tons, then becoming stronger several times in the same key.
Either we should just agree on the difference of AP by 2 times, or we rest on the fact that they will not be able to count
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No we shouldn't, Optimus' scaling chain is larger, he can stomp someone who can stomp groups of 34 tonners, not just one person thats 34 tons
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
But why though? It's not like he stomps everyone in the tournament. His One-Shot chain starts at someone who stomps 34 Tonners in groups with an unquantifiable Strength Difference.
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It's not that he stomps everyone, It's that 82.5 tons was the AP limit I set for the tourney. Anyone who is above that cannot be allowed.
 
Razor said:
No we shouldn't, Optimus' scaling chain is larger, he can stomp someone who can stomp groups of 34 tonners, not just one person thats 34 tons
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Kaneki tramples on a character who showed 17 tons, and then takes away his strength, mutating in the process. Arima stomps this Kaneki, taking it for a feed. Kaneki uses a reactive power boost and becomes kakuja, forcing Arima to use her strongest weapon. Arima is stomps Kaneki again. Kaneki gets stronger and goes toe-to-toe with Arima. His kakuja mode makes him even stronger.
As a result, the Kaneki chain is no less long.
Just as the 17 tons character was stomped by Kaneki, so his stronger version is just fodder for the one-eyed king form and even more so kakuja
 
Razor said:
Also aside from AP, optimus doesn't really have much going for him, he has like no OP hax and his regen is mid-low, so idk if he should get disqualified
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RandomGuy2345 said:
I guess he can be allowed. I mean, he's virtually haxless, it's just that all of the opponents he has faced or on the lower end of 8-B. If he faced someone like Johnny who is 8-B+, it wouldn't look so bad.
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NikHelton said:
Kaneki tramples on a character who showed 17 tons, and then takes away his strength, mutating in the process. The same Kaneki tramples Arima, taking it for food. Kaneki uses a reactive power boost and becomes kakuja, forcing Arima to use her strongest weapon. Arima is trampling Kaneki again. Kaneki gets stronger and goes toe-to-toe with Arima. His kakuja mode makes him even stronger.
As a result, the Kaneki chain is no less long.
Just as the 17 tons character was trampled by Kaneki, so his stronger version is just fodder for the one-eyed king form and even more so kakuja
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Ion get this, so multiple versions of kaneki is a part of the scaling chain not just the kaneki being used here?
 
I think Optimus is okay to use. It's just that all the characters he has faced are on the lower end of 8-B.
 
Alright. My vote goes to Optimus due to his upscaling being waaaaayyyyyy higher than Kaneki's, and apparently the scaling chain showed for Ken doesn't even apply for the key being used lol.
 
Razor said:
Ion get this, so multiple versions of kaneki is a part of the scaling chain not just the kaneki being used here?
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Yes. Kaneki has such a strange chain consisting of himself, because he is constantly getting stronger as the story progresses, but is often trampled by stronger characters.
Kaneki defeating 17 tons with one punch and Kaneki before his transformation into a Dragon is just earth and sky
 
NikHelton said:
Yes. Kaneki has such a strange chain consisting of himself, because he is constantly getting stronger as the story progresses, but is often trampled by stronger characters.
Kaneki defeating 17 tons with one punch and Kaneki before his transformation into a Dragon is just earth and sky
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In that case the scaling chain is invalid then, as kaneki is restricted to one form here
 
Yeah, Kaneki seems outmatched.

He has a few hax that'll make him last a bit longer, but it's not really gonna help, and it's more delaying the inevitable than actually benefiting him.
 
The 8-B key does not imply only the form in which it is oneshoted 17 tons. The 8-B key includes the One-Eyed King and ends with his transformation into a Dragon
 
azontr said:
Why does LS matter?
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i was thinking with Ken's small size compared to Optimus along with his agility and power mimicry, he could maybe choke optimus out.....that is if he can even be chocked
 
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