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7-C+ Tournament


I nominate Future Valerie since she's not a ghost therefore not really haxxed.
 

I nominate Future Valerie since she's not a ghost therefore not really haxxed.
Pick was weaker than I expected, but...

Future Valerie will be added!
 
I read ToG and Baam is haxed af.
This version of Bam ain't that haxed tho :/?. Only has immobilization and durability bypassing, and at this point I don't remember him using his characteristic combo unlike his later iterations
 
Since it says 7-C in his profile, probably 28.86 kilotons, so he might not be able to be used.
How do we know the 90.4225 kiloton end isn't applicable?
Also:

Pride:
Attack Potency: Town level (The most powerful and dangerous homunculus, powerful enough to threaten Hohenheim, who was forced to trap him instead of fight him head on)
Durability: At least Building level+ (Took minimal damage from being beaten around for an extended period of time by Heinkel). Town level with shadows (Unfazed by Hohenheim's alchemy)
Hohenheim:
Attack Potency: Town level (Originally he and Father obtained and divided all the souls of the people of Xerxes between the two of them, he considers himself to be a Philosopher's Stone; therefore, he should have at least comparable power to Kimblee)
Durability: Town level (Took Father's attack while shielding the others)

Pride is Superior to Hohenheim to the point of being unfazed by his alchemy. Hohenheim "should have at least comparable power to Kimblee", so equal or greater to Kimblee, for being a Philosopher's Stone, which Kimblee used 1 of [a Philosopher's Stone] to do the feat you mentioned.
Whether it's 28.86 kilotons or 90.94225 kilotons seems to be based on if this was Violent Fragmentation of rock or Pulverization of Rock.

Nonetheless, the point is, Kimblee used a Philosopher's Stone to do a 28.86 kiloton feat, & Hohenheim is equal to or greater than that, as a living Philosopher's Stone. & Pride is great enough to not be phased by Hohenheim who's equal to or greater than that feat. So he could be somewhere within the acceptable range based on scaling.
Or we could use the 90 kiloton end & assume Pride scales exactly to that. Would that be fine?
 
BTW, I just finished combing through the DPL, so could someone check the eligibility for this tournament of these profiles, please? All of them are 7-C, if I'm not mistaken.

Either of https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hinagiku_(Izuna) or https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Suzuri or Either of https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Alte or https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Stella_(Izuna)

(All of the characters already before this part of this post, in this post, are from the same 'verse.)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ururu_Tsumugiya
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Dr._Fetus (With Sufficient Preparation)?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tails_(Sonic_Boom)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Wordgirl
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Kid_(Whack_The_Series)#Adult As an Adult.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gelatin_(Battle_for_Dream_Island)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sasuke_Uchiha_(Part_I) (Sasuke Retrieval Arc Sasuke.)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Koon_Ran
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Bling-Bling_Boy

Which of them are eligible for entry into the tournament or not? I'll make my decision based on that, as well as who wants who in.

Okay, mostly done browing the DPL. Also, are Blog/Thread Profiles ineligible? For some reason, 4 or 5 of those showed up in the DPL I checked.
 
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This version of Bam ain't that haxed tho :/?. Only has immobilization and durability bypassing, and at this point I don't remember him using his characteristic combo unlike his later iterations

How do we know the 90.4225 kiloton end isn't applicable?
Also:

Pride:
Attack Potency: Town level (The most powerful and dangerous homunculus, powerful enough to threaten Hohenheim, who was forced to trap him instead of fight him head on)
Durability: At least Building level+ (Took minimal damage from being beaten around for an extended period of time by Heinkel). Town level with shadows (Unfazed by Hohenheim's alchemy)
Hohenheim:
Attack Potency: Town level (Originally he and Father obtained and divided all the souls of the people of Xerxes between the two of them, he considers himself to be a Philosopher's Stone; therefore, he should have at least comparable power to Kimblee)
Durability: Town level (Took Father's attack while shielding the others)

Pride is Superior to Hohenheim to the point of being unfazed by his alchemy. Hohenheim "should have at least comparable power to Kimblee", so equal or greater to Kimblee, for being a Philosopher's Stone, which Kimblee used 1 of [a Philosopher's Stone] to do the feat you mentioned.
Whether it's 28.86 kilotons or 90.94225 kilotons seems to be based on if this was Violent Fragmentation of rock or Pulverization of Rock.

Nonetheless, the point is, Kimblee used a Philosopher's Stone to do a 28.86 kiloton feat, & Hohenheim is equal to or greater than that, as a living Philosopher's Stone. & Pride is great enough to not be phased by Hohenheim who's equal to or greater than that feat. So he could be somewhere within the acceptable range based on scaling.
Or we could use the 90 kiloton end & assume Pride scales exactly to that. Would that be fine?
You're using Pride or Darius?
 
You're using Pride or Darius?
I never planned to elect Darius. I might.
I also might elect Pride.

But right now, I'm only proposing characters to determine who's eligible. THEN I'll elect someone to enter.

It's 1 character per user, right?
 
I never planned to elect Darius. I might.
I also might elect Pride.

But right now, I'm only proposing characters to determine who's eligible. THEN I'll elect someone to enter.

It's 1 character per user, right?
It's been changed to 2 characters now since people are having trouble choosing a character.
 
It's been changed to 2 characters now since people are having trouble choosing a character.
Ah, good to know. So would you, or someone else, please be willing to check the eligibility of the list of 7-C characters I assembled in the following post, please?:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hinagiku_(Izuna)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Suzuri
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Alte
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Stella_(Izuna)

(All of the characters already before this part of this post, in this post, are from the same 'verse.)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ururu_Tsumugiya
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Dr._Fetus (With Sufficient Preparation)?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tails_(Sonic_Boom)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Wordgirl
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Kid_(Whack_The_Series)#Adult As an Adult.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gelatin_(Battle_for_Dream_Island)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sasuke_Uchiha_(Part_I) (Sasuke Retrieval Arc Sasuke.)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Koon_Ran
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Bling-Bling_Boy

Which of them are eligible for entry into the tournament or not? I'll make my decision based on that, as well as who wants who in.

Okay, mostly done browing the DPL. Also, are Blog/Thread Profiles ineligible? For some reason, 4 or 5 of those showed up in the DPL I checked.
 
She has hax like BFR and Probability Manip. Or are you just using her base?

Same as the first one.

This one seems fine.

Same as one above.

What's her AP? If the AP is fine, then she can be used.

Kinda iffy on BFR. Though it's teleporting the opponent, and he has to touch him, right? Eh, I'll decline it. Not taking the risk.

Either key is fine to use. If Sonic Boom Metal Sonic can be used, then so can Tails.

The highest value is 52.23 kilotons. She's fine to use. She's pretty close to the baseline.

He seems to be far greater than Small Town+. That value is too small to say that he reaches close to Town+.

AP is too high.

This one has already been added.

Seems fine.

This was added initially until someone switched him out. So he can be used.
 
@RandomGuy2345 Before I reply, keep in mind that you can put links in (URL unfurl="false") (/url) (But using [] brackets intead of () brackets.) to make links not auto-preview. Previewing your post is a nice way to make sure of this. You can also check if url unfurl is true or false by looking at it when editing your post.
 
@RandomGuy2345 Before I reply, keep in mind that you can put links in (URL unfurl="false") (/url) (But using [] brackets intead of () brackets.) to make links not auto-preview. Previewing your post is a nice way to make sure of this. You can also check if url unfurl is true or false by looking at it when editing your post.
I'm confused asf right now.
 

For the people who are still struggling, y'all can use these 2 characters if ya want.
See here?
Both your links have Url Unfurl set to True.
This one does, too. See how it auto-previews?
But this one....
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Spiritomb
Does NOT auto-preview?

That's because the 2nd link to Spiritomb looks like this:
(URL unfurl="false")https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Spiritomb(/url)
Except instead of using brackets that look like (), it uses brackets that look like [].
 
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She has hax like BFR and Probability Manip. Or are you just using her base?
Let's say With Weapons (Weapons P&A: Damage Boost (on demons and dragons), Very resistant to Mind Control and Corruption from weapons, Durability Negation, Fire Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Her stamina can't be depleted, Can steal items) but not Talismans nor Orbs & Pills.
Is that Eligible?
Same as the first one.
Eligible as Base, no Talismans, no Orbs & Pills?
This one seems fine.


Same as one above.
You mean that Alte, as well as Stella (Izuna) seem eligible?
What's her AP? If the AP is fine, then she can be used.
Ururu Tsumugiya:
Attack Potency: Town level (Easily overpowered Base Yylfordt)
Yylfordt:
Attack Potency: Town level (Defeated 20% Bankai Renji easily), higher with Resurrección (Lethally injured Ururu, who had been previously been easily overpowering him)
Renji:
Attack Potency: Town level+ (Much greater reiatsu than Ikkaku according to Ganju Shiba), higher with Bankai (Somewhat pressured a Shikai using Byakuya and got him onto his knee, though it should be noted that he was no match once Byakuya got fully serious)
Ikkaku:
Attack Potency: Town level+ (Should be the same as his durability, given how reiatsu works), higher with Bankai (Started releasing far more powerful reiatsu than in Shikai and it only kept on increasing as noted by Edrad Liones)
Durability: Town level+ (Blocked this attack in Shikai and then went on to release his Bankai and continue fighting)
Calc! Calc Yield?
61.698017404004502851 Kilotons of TNT

....Unfortunately, the Calc is Unevaluated, so use with caution.
Anyway, assuming the Calc is Valid (IIRC, there was some thing some time ago back where blog posts got deleted for some reason, & I'd be surprised if a HST 'Verse's big-scaling-chain-important Calc wasn't evaluated at SOME point in nearly 4 years (It was published on January 18th, 2018.).)

So.... Ururu scales to overpowering a Town Level (Yylfordt) who easily defeated a different Town Level that had 20% Bankai (20% Bankai Renji). Since Renji is "higher with Bankai", & he had 20%, that probably means him defeating like that also makes the scaling to Ikkaku part of his justification relevant, just that Renji was 20% stronger than that. Ikkaku is the one who casually did the 61.698 kiloton durability feat.

61.698 kilotons<Casual Ikkaku<Renji is much greater than Ikkaku<Since with Bankai has a separate section in that key for his AP, 20% Bankai Renji is probably 20% greater than him without it, & thus, even higher<Casual Yylfordt<Ururu easily defeated Yylfordt.

Depending on the one-shot range for the verse, she could be very high above the 61.698 kiloton scaling point or not much higher. If it's like, only need 10% stronger to one-shot, she might not break 100; Keep in mind that 7.5x is only for determining how much to one-shot OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN A VERSUS THREAD, & isn't relevant at all for what the one-shot range within a 'verse is.

That help?
Kinda iffy on BFR. Though it's teleporting the opponent, and he has to touch him, right? Eh, I'll decline it. Not taking the risk.
It might not be in-character, understandable.
Either key is fine to use. If Sonic Boom Metal Sonic can be used, then so can Tails.
Oh, then he's redundant lol.
The highest value is 52.23 kilotons. She's fine to use. She's pretty close to the baseline.
Dunno which of those is used for her, but good to know. Which calc & which yield are you citing, please?
He seems to be far great Small Town+. That value is too small to say that he reaches close to Town+.
What?
Tier: 9-B, 9-A with a car | At least 7-C, higher with Godzilla
At least Town level (Entirely destroyed a skyscraper and left a massive crater, which should be far superior to these levels of energy, higher with summoning Godzilla (Can summon Godzilla, who is several stories in size and likely way stronger than him)
Relevant Calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AidenBrooks999/Destroying_Things#A_Skycraper

Technically, his AP justification says he not only did the feat the generic calc calcs, but he left a huge crater. But I can understand not being confident that he's between 10 & 25 times stronger than the calc, even if he is "far superior". Plus, that'd barely put him at the benchmark for the tourney anyway.
AP is too high.


This one has already been added.


Seems fine.


This was added initially until someone switched him out. So he can be used.
Makes sense.

How would you rank the Izuna characters in order of preference, disregarding that you may not know them well?
Ohh, I get it now.

Thanks!
Happy to help.
Btw, which character you're picking?
Yet to be determined, based on matters brought up within this post to be discussed. Sorry for the delay.
 
Let's say With Weapons (Weapons P&A: Damage Boost (on demons and dragons), Very resistant to Mind Control and Corruption from weapons, Durability Negation, Fire Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Her stamina can't be depleted, Can steal items) but not Talismans nor Orbs & Pills.
Is that Eligible?
Yeah, this seems fine, as long as Probability Manip isn't too OP.
Eligible as Base, no Talismans, no Orbs & Pills?
Same as one above.
You mean that Alte, as well as Stella (Izuna) seem eligible?
Yes.
Ururu Tsumugiya:
Attack Potency: Town level (Easily overpowered Base Yylfordt)
Yylfordt:
Attack Potency: Town level (Defeated 20% Bankai Renji easily), higher with Resurrección (Lethally injured Ururu, who had been previously been easily overpowering him)
Renji:
Attack Potency: Town level+ (Much greater reiatsu than Ikkaku according to Ganju Shiba), higher with Bankai (Somewhat pressured a Shikai using Byakuya and got him onto his knee, though it should be noted that he was no match once Byakuya got fully serious)
Ikkaku:
Attack Potency: Town level+ (Should be the same as his durability, given how reiatsu works), higher with Bankai (Started releasing far more powerful reiatsu than in Shikai and it only kept on increasing as noted by Edrad Liones)
Durability: Town level+ (Blocked this attack in Shikai and then went on to release his Bankai and continue fighting)
Calc! Calc Yield?
61.698017404004502851 Kilotons of TNT

....Unfortunately, the Calc is Unevaluated, so use with caution.
Anyway, assuming the Calc is Valid (IIRC, there was some thing some time ago back where blog posts got deleted for some reason, & I'd be surprised if a HST 'Verse's big-scaling-chain-important Calc wasn't evaluated at SOME point in nearly 4 years (It was published on January 18th, 2018.).)

So.... Ururu scales to overpowering a Town Level (Yylfordt) who easily defeated a different Town Level that had 20% Bankai (20% Bankai Renji). Since Renji is "higher with Bankai", & he had 20%, that probably means him defeating like that also makes the scaling to Ikkaku part of his justification relevant, just that Renji was 20% stronger than that. Ikkaku is the one who casually did the 61.698 kiloton durability feat.

61.698 kilotons<Casual Ikkaku<Renji is much greater than Ikkaku<Since with Bankai has a separate section in that key for his AP, 20% Bankai Renji is probably 20% greater than him without it, & thus, even higher<Casual Yylfordt<Ururu easily defeated Yylfordt.

Depending on the one-shot range for the verse, she could be very high above the 61.698 kiloton scaling point or not much higher. If it's like, only need 10% stronger to one-shot, she might not break 100; Keep in mind that 7.5x is only for determining how much to one-shot OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN A VERSUS THREAD, & isn't relevant at all for what the one-shot range within a 'verse is.

That help?
So Ururu is massively above ~61.7 Kilotons by an unknown amount? Alright. She's eligible to use.
Dunno which of those is used for her, but good to know. Which calc & which yield are you citing, please?
"Average End: 3,612,100 kg divided by 2 = 1,635,200 * 121,000,000 = 2.18532E+14' ('218,532,050,000,000) joules."
What?
Tier: 9-B, 9-A with a car | At least 7-C, higher with Godzilla
At least Town level (Entirely destroyed a skyscraper and left a massive crater, which should be far superior to these levels of energy, higher with summoning Godzilla (Can summon Godzilla, who is several stories in size and likely way stronger than him)
Relevant Calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AidenBrooks999/Destroying_Things#A_Skycraper

Technically, his AP justification says he not only did the feat the generic calc calcs, but he left a huge crater. But I can understand not being confident that he's between 10 & 25 times stronger than the calc, even if he is "far superior". Plus, that'd barely put him at the benchmark for the tourney anyway.
Even using the highest value wouldn't make him eligible.
How would you rank the Izuna characters in order of preference, disregarding that you may not know them well?
In terms of preference? You mean rank by how eligible they are? Or which one I recommend to be added? Well, Stella and Alte are the most eligible ones, so I guess I prefer to use them. But you can choose Hinagiku if you want. I recommend avoiding Suzuri, though.

So Hinagiku, Stella, Alte, Ururu, Word Girl, along with the other characters I confirmed eligible can be used.
 
This version of Bam ain't that haxed tho :/?. Only has immobilization and durability bypassing, and at this point I don't remember him using his characteristic combo unlike his later iterations
Well that's already enough to remove him here. He DOES use immobilization in character, whatever comes next doesn't really matter cause it basically guarantees him the win.
 
Yeah, this seems fine, as long as Probability Manip isn't too OP.

Same as one above.

Yes.

So Ururu is massively above ~61.7 Kilotons by an unknown amount? Alright. She's eligible to use.

"Average End: 3,612,100 kg divided by 2 = 1,635,200 * 121,000,000 = 2.18532E+14' ('218,532,050,000,000) joules."

Even using the highest value wouldn't make him eligible.

In terms of preference? You mean rank by how eligible they are? Or which one I recommend to be added? Well, Stella and Alte are the most eligible ones, so I guess I prefer to use them. But you can choose Hinagiku if you want. I recommend avoiding Suzuri, though.

So Hinagiku, Stella, Alte, Ururu, Word Girl, along with the other characters I confirmed eligible can be used.
In that case, my choices in order of preference:

1. Pride
2. Koon Ran
3. Ururu
4. Stella/Alte
5. WordGirl
6. Hinagiku
7. Suzuri

Consider any choices beyond the 2nd as possible replacements in case the top 2 need to be disqualified, selecting from among replacements by going down the list.
Hope this helps!
 
Well that's already enough to remove him here. He DOES use immobilization in character, whatever comes next doesn't really matter cause it basically guarantees him the win.
Yeah, immobilization indeed is in character(and first move too, and most used move too) but why is that enough? There should be more characters that can counter it or has some sort of ability to help them against that.
 
In that case, my choices in order of preference:

1. Pride
2. Koon Ran
3. Ururu
4. Stella/Alte
5. WordGirl
6. Hinagiku
7. Suzuri

Consider any choices beyond the 2nd as possible replacements in case the top 2 need to be disqualified, selecting from among replacements by going down the list.
Hope this helps!
So you're using Pride and Koon Ran?
 
  • No crazy OP hax like Existence Erasure or Supernatural Luck. Only way I'll allow it is if the person doesn't use it in character, or doesn't use it in combat at all.
There is great difference between these "crazy op hax" and immobilization, but aight, no TOG as always.
 
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