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It ain't fire. It doesn't literally burn. It's an visually instant flow of vibrating energy that blasts/fries anything in it's path or busts a hole through them while ignoring durabilityIt'll kick in before fire burns his organs, which is basically 1 to 1 with what baam will do here.
I meant the timeframe either move needs to deal significant damage. fire doesn't need a lot of time to burn organs or do significant damage. Also isn't baam's first move paralysis?It ain't fire. It doesn't literally burn. It's an visually instant flow of vibrating energy that blasts/fries anything in it's path or busts a hole through them while ignoring durability
Bam's move would probably be danmaku which would get covered by adaptation which would mean that Bam would lead with a piercing technique laterI meant the timeframe either move needs to deal significant damage. fire doesn't need a lot of time to burn organs or do significant damage. Also isn't baam's first move paralysis?
The time that fire needs to do significant damage to organs would be similar to the time that baam's move will need to fill up the opponent with shinsoo or whatever it was. fire doesn't even need to destroy organs, A few scratches on crucial organs is already lethal. and shirley can adapt to fire before it kills him even though its targeting his organs. if he can do that then he can do the same here.Also i legit don't get your point, please rephrase it
I'd say shirley can win before he even uses the move you're suggesting, he'll probably get intimidated by danmaku. Also Idk if piercing attacks negate dura or if they can just damage stronger enemies.Bam's move would probably be danmaku which would get covered by adaptation which would mean that Bam would lead with a piercing technique later
Bam can deal with that via barriers and flight. The moment he gets close its over.Plus baam getting close is already unlikely, Shirley isn't a CQC fighter, he starts with missiles and he has flight. He also just massively outranges baam whilst having the AP advantage by a huge margin because that 89 tons is the most casual shit he's ever tanked.
Oh shit he has flight too? I suck at reading. Yes I know it isn't burning and that wasn't my point, my point was that the time that move needs to burn organs is also similar to the time fire needs to burn organs which shirley's adaptation outspeeds meaning it'd outspeed it as wellBam can deal with that via barriers and flight. The moment he gets close its over.
The attack is basically if someone were to shove a dura-negating kamehameha wave into you. It doesn't burn organs as in fire type of burning, it's more of a "getting a lightsaber shot into your body" type of burn.
Anyways could we wait for @ImNot4nUser
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He has scans and does better than me at explaining
If he's 7-C+ he is still below 100 tons and thus never above 2x Bam. If you disagree with that then go make a CRTShirley flies, Outranges by a hundred meters, Uses missiles in characters that way above baam's AP because shirley himself massive upscales from that 89 tons which is already above baam's AP by a decent margin and if baam magically touches shirley shirley just adapts. AKA stomp
Never uses in characterNot even mentioning that if baam tries to do any flashy shit shirley can just immobilize with a thought and then gg from there
He's massively above that. by an unknown amount.If he's 7-C+ he is still below 100 tons and thus never above 2x Bam. If you disagree with that then go make a CRT
Bam lands a piercing technique and wins
Anyways i gotta go for now
No? He doesn't start with it but its not out of character for himNever uses in character
I'm going off of the arguments that psycho gave in our match.Also nobody has shown any evidence of adaptation working like you say it does.
I can provide scans later on of Bam's attacks but where is the evidence that he'll just ignore any attack with adaptation within an instant
What? ALL THIS FREAKING TIME I TOLD YOU IT IS A DURA NEGATING TECHNKQUE BROHe's massively above that. by an unknown amount.
No he doesn't? Piercing attacks don't even negate durability and they dont kill with one hit? shirley could also just dodge
Calm down, I thought by piercing attack you meant the actual piercing attack like the sharp teeth of animals, not an in-verse techniqueWhat? ALL THIS FREAKING TIME I TOLD YOU IT IS A DURA NEGATING TECHNKQUE BRO
It's via blue oar which has flight. He has it since the very beginning of season 2Also I triple checked and baam does not have flight in this key so he still gets stomped
He only has it in his post revolution key, you're gonna have to make a crt for thatIt's via blue oar which has flight. He has it since the very beginning of season 2
Shit, guess i willHe only has it in his post revolution key, you're gonna have to make a crt for that
he is extremely skilled, being trained by people with centuries of combat experience and has damn good senses, enough to keep up with danmaku.How fast is the pain manipulation? Also, would Baam be skilled enough to cover the distance without being hit by any of Shirley’s lasers or missiles that outrange his abilities?
(You’re free to respond when you have the time, Arceus)
He is skilled but the verse gets wanked on skill by the supporters and likes to overhype them but that's probably because they don't really understandAlso, would Baam be skilled enough to cover the distance without being hit by any of Shirley’s lasers or missiles that outrange his abilities?
Scan...enough to keep up with danmaku.
Which chapter?look man...idk how to share images from webtoon.
That's why im waiting for imnot4user
its one of the chapters in the reflejo fight. Ill try to find itWhich chapter?
its one of the chapters in the reflejo fight
It works to especifically disable the suits
Extremely dodgeable, is a laser which needs to reach you to enclose you in a bubble.
needs to create an object made to absorb the stuff, it would adapt to absorb energy maybe?
Don't know how they work, but seem amongst the most dangerous stuff he has, not in character tho.
just like Doof, while he is academically smart, he lacks in other areasAt least Extraordinary Genius. Drained Jimmy Neutron's intelligence before adding it to his own, although he still keeps his attitude and inexperience
the time his adaptation works needs to be instantaneous, as the time-frame of him adapting is the same "Gets hit, then Adapting warning sign in his chest and then he adapts" by that logic,The time that fire needs to do significant damage to organs would be similar to the time that baam's move will need to fill up the opponent with shinsoo or whatever it was.
I mean, following this, Bam is both a CQC and a Long range fighter, also is Shirley even in character to go away, and start sniping? Has he actually done so before?Plus baam getting close is already unlikely, Shirley isn't a CQC fighter, he starts with missiles and he has flight. He also just massively outranges baam whilst having the AP advantage by a huge margin because that 89 tons is the most casual shit he's ever tanked.
The forcefield is a laser that needs to target Bam to enclose it, Bam could counter it, dodge it and so on. Danmaku is the literal basis of the tower combat...But, he also has the forcefield to seal Baam in, would Baam have a counter to it?
By that logic so is Bam. Since it goes like thisHe's massively above that. by an unknown amount.
Being "massively above" adds nothing, you could be behind a large chains of oneshots another character and then put a character who is 5 kilotons higher than the weakest one in the scaling and he will still out AP you independant on how many oneshots you are above him(excluding if you're in jump tier zone). The difference here is the same difference as the calc they have independant on how massively above they scale to the calcs.Bam w/thorn(nearly oneshot Reflejo)>>>Reflejo>Bam w/o thorn(68 kilotons)
So nuking internal organs isn't durability bypass? I see.(I already saw the comment of you acknowledging it as an inverse technique)Piercing attacks don't even negate durability and they dont kill with one hit? shirley could also just dodge
You get filled with shinsu? You're now in agonizing pain, as fast as you get filled with energy/shinsu. And Shirley can feel emotions, but is he even biological?How fast is the pain manipulation?
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