I place my bets on Brook and his intelligence, so if you say possibly it will be a problem, then I'm really inclined to say his expertise won't let it happen
Frogadier and other pokémons who use that, do so so that the opponent has less accuracy, so how can you say he sees inside the Smokescreen? And while he enters the Smokescreen searching for the opportunity attack, gives enough time for Brook to act, via Relativistic speed being able to do things in seconds or less then that and, again, brook's I'm high alert and a hugely more experienced guy
I wasn't speaking about Frogadier going INTO the Smokescreen.
You can create a Smokescreen & wait outside of the Smokescreen, to see if anyone exits.
& I'd be confident the anime at least has had Smokescreen being used for obscuring visions, making get aways, & other stuff that isn't purely reducing accuracy.
Hell no, I love both franchises, it's cool to discuss them
Glad to know it!
I really think a "somewhat of a hurdle" which Frogadier can't deal with
In my mind, this is a fight where one opponent (Among other differences) is around 18% stronger. It's not out of the realm of possibility to beat down someone stronger than you via tactics & such.
Speaking of, there was an alternate tactic that could come up, which I mostly learned of via my research during Frogadier's last match.
bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net
During the events of that episode, before Ash's Froakie had joined him via a Poke Ball, it had used its "Frubbles"; Sticky bubbles secreted from its skin. In that episode, it used them to immobilize a Garchomp of Professor Sycamore's that had flew up to atop of Prism Tower in a panic due to a collar Team Rocket had put on it.
As Bulbapedia says:
"Ash is trying to get close to her again, but Garchomp is still shrieking in pain and stumbles back, almost falling off of the edge. However, Froakie uses his frubbles to pin Garchomp's feet to the Tower, immobilizing her, and Ash grabs hold of her long enough for Pikachu to destroy the collar with an Iron Tail attack."
It had also used its sticky Frubbles to incapacitate Jesse's Wobbuffet, since it'd been using Mirror Coat, during the previous episode:
bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net
| X | It secretes flexible bubbles from its chest and back. The bubbles reduce the damage it would otherwise take when attacked. |
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| Y | It protects its skin by covering its body in delicate bubbles. Beneath its happy-go-lucky air, it keeps a watchful eye on its surroundings. |
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Based on Pokedex entries, these are something ANY Froakie might use, not just Ash's.
Frogadier also seems to use them to some extent, considering it has some on its backside, & based on its Pokedex entries....
bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net
Well, Frogadier only got Pokedex entries for 4 games, all of them in Gen 6, & 2 of those Pokedex entries were repeat, for a total of only 2 unique Pokedex entries for it. 1 of those 2 is:
| X | It can throw bubble-covered pebbles with precise control, hitting empty cans up to a hundred feet away. |
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The fact that it throws bubble-coated pebbles & the bubbles on its back suggests it uses "Frubbles" or something similar.
& considering how we scale Pokemon's LS, & that a Garchomp was restrained by using Frubble's to pin a Garchomp's feet...
Well, lemme ask this: Brook's profile lacks keys for his Lifting Strength. Does he need any revisions or upgrades to his LS?
Lifting Strength: Athletic Human (Physically stronger than Usopp)
If a panicked Garchomp that was screaming in pain could get locked in place, I'm not sure how an Athletic Human LS character is breaking out, & AFAIK, Pre-Timeskip Brook lacks the body control or such to separate his feet bones. (Not to mention I doubt he'd run well without them.)
Also, for what it's worth, Bulbapedia's blurb says this about Froakie's Frubbles vs Wobbuffet:
"When it flings the protective Frubbles that cover its back—which isn’t technically a move, and therefore not affected by Wobbuffet’s Mirror Coat".
This MIGHT exempt it from hitting with Mind Reader, since, the in-game description for that is:
"The user senses the target's movements with its mind to ensure its next attack does not miss the target."
But that'd be mixing the anime & game by saying Frubbles aren't a move & the game's description of Mind Reader using the word "attack". (Not to mention, logically, being able to sense someone's move should let you reliably aim for their feet or such.)
Other means to help it hit might be Smokescreen to obscure Frubbles on the ground, or, if it's possible, using Double Team to have the illusionary copies mimicking the Frubble throwing, so it's unclear which to avoid. (I'm unsure if Double Team copies do actually imitate motions, but that'd be quite an undertaking to check,
as it has literally dozens of anime appearances.)
Frogadier might also not use it because Frubbles are arguably, somewhat more of its pre-evolution's technique.
Or it could just rely on Brooke not realizing. He isn't dumb. Comical as he can be, I can imagine Brooke would have the sense to dodge even bubbly things thrown at it, as opposed to staring or poking at the bubbles or panicking.
But if Brooke dodges the bubbles thrown at his feet or such, & then later on in the fight, the Frubbles are still on the ground, he might not be paying attention to the ground as he runs to his opponent, or heck, does his iconic slow walk during his humming slash techniques.
After all, if your opponent is jumping around high or throwing projectiles or other ninja techniques, you might not be paying attention to the ground, especially when it just looks like there's some bubbles on the ground, which might be unassuming enough that Brooke might not realize the threat, if the Frubbles don't do anything when they miss & hit the floor or such.
Still, if it survives Brook doing a humming slash, & realizes it needs to stop him, this might be its most effective means of movement control. I doubt Brook would have a means of breaking free, considering the LS as I understand it.
(I swear, I've read/typed "Frubbles" so much lately....)
